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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

The first thought the petty-bourgeoise breadtuber has on any given topic is "how will this affect my brand?"

This realisation enables you to understand why influencers are fundamentally always going to be a deradicalising force except for the cases where they are self-sacrificial. With that said however there are absolutely no breadtubers I can name who are self-sacrificial in the same way that other names with platforms are like Kneecap, Bobby Vylan, Ms Rachel or others who are actively sacrificing the things they can do and the breadth of their potential audiences for what is right. There are no, NO breadtubers who are sacrificing or doing as much as Ms Rachel, who would not even profess to be anything more than a children's entertainer, let alone an "activist" like these influencer twerps would say they are.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

JT was (I believe?) the only one willing to walk away from Nebula over Palestine.

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Was it ever confirmed that it was because of Palestine? When it happened it seemed like he and nebula had a business disagreement.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yeah, I remember he discussed it recently, I believe as a guest on another show. Maybe the May 1 Bad Hasbara, ep 104?

Specifically it was about something he posted immediately after Oct 7. Nebula wanted him to at least partially walk it back, say something both-sids-ish, "condemn Hamas", something along those lines. Seemed like Nebula was pretty afraid and wanted to CYA basically. JT went back and forth with them a bit by email and then decided to leave instead. He made it sound as amicable as possible given the circumstances, but my impression personally was that he was softening the story to some degree, out of professionalism/courtesy (which I recall he has done in discussing other past disagreements as well, eg with CPUSA.)

[–] Beetle@hexbear.net 18 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Can someone explain the concept of ‘breadtube’? Why is it called that and who are the main participants? Is it an actual community or several? Are they libs or leftist?

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 20 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

starting with gamergate and ending with the adpocalypse, there were a series of popular alt-right and fascist youtube channels dominating the political and commentary scene in youtube. in response some libs and leftists started making their own videos.

they weren't really popular until after the adpocalypse which i suspect youtube tweaked its algorithm to stop promoting racists. i guess the trump backlash helped too. anyway after that the video essay format and debunking videos really took off so a lot of people started making them. the most popular ones were grouped together as "BreadTube". it's a play on the name of the book conquest of bread. some of them were anarchists and socialists for sure but most of them were your average progressive. to me it always felt like an outsider label mocking them but people owned it and eventually a community formed around it.

today there's really no such thing as breadtube and it's almost certainly used as an insult every time. it's basically the equivalent of calling someone woke but on youtube.

the right wingers tanked and most of them have just stopped. as for breadtubers the good ones moved on to greener pastures or went on to produce high effort videos. the lazy ones kept leeching off that patreon money, and the worst ones pivoted to streaming and debating.

off the top of my head the most popular breadtubers were hbomberguy, three arrows, shaun, contrapoints, PhilosophyTube, innuendo studios, non compete, red mouse or something?, thought slime (im not sure if they were ever considered breadtube, good channel though).

there have been some late comers like vaush, destiny, adam something and lonerbox. and well look how great that turned out.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

the right wingers tanked and most of them have just stopped.

Is this even true? The the most watched political channels on YouTube are chud/fascist ones.

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago

the original ones did the current popular chuds are relatively new. im talking about people like sargon of akkad.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

there have been some late comers like vaush, destiny, adam something and lonerbox. and well look how great that turned out.

i've never met anyone who thinks those losers are breadtube

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

i don't know about destiny and adam something but vaush and lonerbox were definitely considered breadtube.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

huh other than azov something's urbanism videos i never heard of any of them outside the context of them sucking. vaush was a known sex pest years before the incident. lonerbox i would've never heard of if bad empanada didn't make videos trashing him, and i guess destiny used to do starcraft but the political stuff was always centrist af and i don't understand people saying he was on the left other than his own lies.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 22 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Breadtube is a bunch of western progressive liberal to somewhat leftist content creators, with likely a western chauvinist perspective

Eg. Worse side Vaush, Contrapoints,

Mid PhilosophyTube, Innuendo Studio, Hbomberguy

Tbh I think breadtube itself is kinda damned, due to its cooption to western capitalist liberal sensibility,

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Tbh I think breadtube itself is kinda damned, due to its cooption to western capitalist liberal sensibility,

and it's all distinctly and noticeably white

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 7 points 17 hours ago

Except f. d. signifier lol

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 5 points 18 hours ago

Western, white... Whatever they call themselves.

[–] varmint@hexbear.net 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Anarchist writer Peter Kropotkin's foundational text is called Conquest of Bread, and so bread is a bit of a meme word for online anarchists. Breadtube is a community of anarchist and left liberal YouTubers who make content about theory, media, and YouTube drama.

There are a few actual communist YouTubers bunched in with them too. A lot of them are annoying libs, so people here are dismissive of the community.

Hbomberguy, Contrapoints, Shaun, Vaush, etc

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 8 points 15 hours ago

I will object that the reason that I am dismissive of them is that a large number of them are actively hostile towards AES states, communist, and anarchist theory, with many of them spending their time misrepresenting our "tankie" positions and arguments, usually by repeating Western propaganda as if it is decided history that should inform our decisions.

The idea that any of us who consider ourselves anti-imperialist should view them as anything other than an overall hostile online entity is beyond me. I view it as yet another demonstration of overall lack of media literacy.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Some people claim it's because of the Bread Book, but it always read to me as either "bread and roses" or some general idea that social welfare (typified by feeding the hungry) is good.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 13 hours ago

peace, land, and breadtube

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago

it was/is(?) a subreddit where liberal video essays got posted when video essays were becoming a thing done outside of film school ~2015/16

[–] TheRogueKitten@hexbear.net 9 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Dare I mention... HIM?

You all know who I mean.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 22 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheRogueKitten@hexbear.net 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

A certain equestrian enjoyer.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheRogueKitten@hexbear.net 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheRogueKitten@hexbear.net 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Now that is nightmare fuel...

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Berserk is non-stop nightmare fuel and that's why so many sickos enjoy it (it's me. I'm the sicko).

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 5 points 18 hours ago

Yes its Wyald I mean wild as hell

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 9 points 20 hours ago

don't look up the original context of that image

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

he's breadtube? thats almost as absurd as calling density a leftist

[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 4 points 17 hours ago