earlier this morning, I saw some poll on shitty ass reactionary Newsweek or some place like it that had confidence/support for Trump's DOJ in handling Epstein in the single digits, lmao. those are toilet numbers in America, where probably a third of the US still thinks Brett Farve is a good guy.

if he pardons her, the sheer number of already unstable, armed qanon weirdos that will experience a violent psychotic break and become aggressively fixed has got to be the subject of a secret service PowerPoint slide.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

if he pardons her, the sheer number of already unstable, armed qanon weirdos that will experience a violent psychotic break and become aggressively fixed has got to be the subject of a secret service PowerPoint slide.

That's the wild part, it really can go both ways, either they snap and try and do something funny or they double down and claim this is another 4D chess move you wouldn't understand.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly Trump fans should be openly and directly questioned about who they consider should be allowed to prey on children, for them to give a list of people they consider allowed to be pedos

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wonder if a recognizable percentage will still think Trump is infallible, but that he has been replaced by a replicant/body double and that all post-epstein footage of him is AI faked.

it's important to remember how untethered to reality these people are and that this makes their behavior unpredictable. many legit thought JFK was going to rematerialize.

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They didn't think JFK would come back from the dead.

They thought JFK Jr. (John-John) would reveal that he didn't actually die in that plane crash in 1999.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

while the more normal-ish "JFK Jr. will reveal he faked his death" faction was probably what passes for mainstream Q, there was a "JFK will also be resurrected" supernatural messianic faction of Q present for The Great Disappointment 2.

Two weeks after hundreds of people gathered in Dallas to witness what they believed was going to be the return of John F. Kennedy and JFK Jr., another large crowd gathered in downtown Dallas once again in the vain hope of seeing the former president resurrected.

The group has been in Dallas since the beginning of the month when they initially gathered based on the prediction that JFK was going to be resurrected on Nov. 2.

As Q’s followers Balkanize into new factions, Protzman’s group has separated itself from the old majority in a few ways. Among them is the idea that JFK Sr. is also coming back — at the age of 104

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Amazing, holy shit.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah I'd imagine the loonier bunch is floating around in the aether of Q shit while those more in touch with reality are probably like "ummm wtf".

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

The lady in charge of Project Camelot (can't remember her name, crazy alien lizard shape shifting type conspiracy) thinks Trump is a clone that is somehow acting out/malfunctioned/etc

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What did Brett Favre do?

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

diverted state of Mississippi funds earmarked for food stamps and welfare funds to his own bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_welfare_funds_scandal

a local reporter uncovered the whole thing. it is fucking wild and so consistent with rich people looting public funds to further enrich themselves at the expense of the most vulnerable.

here's a video account summary (~18 mins) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efp3_TjHuYY

additional update (~9 mins) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haGZ96LyB0I

and it's obvious he knew how fucked it was, because he texted the ringleader to make sure it wouldn't get out. guy is a phenomenal piece of shit with a carefully crafted public image so far from reality, it exists in a theoretical dimension.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wow, what a shitstain

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

yeah, it's crazy. i think i heard about it around ~2 years ago, because a friend of mine clued me in to the coverage. at the time we both worked in "The Academy" and are both into watching the ways in which academia is being used as a tool of neoliberalism to maintain the capitalist structure, so the granular details of federal Temporary Assistance aka direct distributed money for need families--which Mississippi rejects 90% of to keep its underclass even more desperate--be pipelined to do capital investment for university expansion of sports infrastructure with that money was like... i dunno, the holy grail of corruption and graft. i mean, it was so bad that some of the central figures got caught, indicted, and convicted. if you're rich, white, famous and still manage to end up hip deep in shit for screwing over broke minorities in mississippi... you really went too hard.

the fact that it was an NFL grifter with hundreds of millions of his own money that pressured for and brokered the deal while also pocketing a few million from the cut as a sweetener was just chefs-kiss

the university, the state apparatus, and some aspects of sports media have done much to try and memoryhole it through underreporting, both to protect the institutions as well as a bankable celebrity property/"local hero" from a connected family (Favre)... but the fact that the shitwizard in the middle decided to roll over and cooperate after facing 35 YEARS in prison, releasing tons of communications and texts has troubled those attempts... because a lot of shit is now public record.

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[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The worst sin of all, playing for the Minnesota Vikings!

real answer

Sexual Harassment while still a player, and doing all kinds of wellfare fraud/public fund embezzlement scams after retirement

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[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

What happens if he just serves up 5 democratic pedophiles and maybe 1 billionaire and calls it quits? The problem is, who talks, who is killed immediately, do they start pointing fingers?

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 62 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

yes, you can technically pardon your sex-trafficing pedophile co-conspiritor cementing republicans as the party of pedophiles.

it would be very on-brand.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago

I'm reminded of (although obviously not as gigantic an issue as this) an article someone once wrote in regards to why printers having a subscription to continue working was okay: they're allowed to do it; that was it, that was the article; literally explaining that actually it was okay to lock your printer because the company is legally allowed to do it.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Repubs become party of pedophiles

Dems are like hey the one time we had a lot of influence we had a pedophile in the white house, we need to elevate more pedophiles

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

If the republicans are the party of pedophiles then the democrats have to be at least as pedophile-friendly in order to reach across the aisle. Only true adults in the room would understand.

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[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 56 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i looked at r/conservative to see what they were saying, and they think that trump is “dangling a pardon over her head so she keeps talking”. as if the deal wouldnt be “dont talk and i’ll pardon you”. they still cling onto hope that trump is a “benevolent pedophile” lmfaooo

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

All the worst people on the planet are so fucking stupid. It makes me annoyed these people have so much power.

[–] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

r/conservative basically turned into a more serious presenting r/the_donald sometime after the latter was banned I think. My memory is hazy, I haven't browsed reddit or ventured into that sub in a long time so I may well be wrong.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 54 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

please, go right ahead

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

Do it, I want to see so badly how far his base is willing to twist themselves into an ideological pretzel to still claim Trump is "the storm".

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do it coward

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As awoke communist, let me just say how incredibly triggered I would be if Trump pardoned her.

I would be devastated.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

Trump won't do it. He's a weak, cowardly loser of a TACO.

Only a big, strong, powerful—some say even the most powerful—man could do something like that.

[–] PostyourJaggaHogs@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

If he pardons her we may actually see a serious schism within the GOP. I think there's too many people who signed on because they believed Trump was going to punish pedophiles, if Ghislaine goes on TV to say Trump didn't do shit and he pardons her, that is going to break some brains.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think there's too many people who signed on because they believed Trump was going to punish pedophiles

That's the reason they give, but I don't think it's the actual reason. Him being on Epstein's list didn't shake their faith in him.

[–] christian@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you confidently say something out loud enough times it starts becoming pretty embarrassing to backtrack on it. If they can't even come up with a justification that's convincing in their inner monologue, they'll have to either backtrack on being pro-Trump or being anti-pedophilia. This might sound absurdly optimistic, but I actually think most magas would have an easier time revoking support for Trump than saying they don't care about pedophilia.

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[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If we don't see a serious schism this will be the final example we need to know that nothing will change the minds of the settlers

[–] jack@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Proud identification as a settler is a growing trend in MAGA circles disgost

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

I'm kinda torn because I know Maxwell still isn't getting the punishment she deserves but this is still better than nothing, and pardoning her may be really hurtful to the victims.

On the other hand, it may create an interesting series of events as long as NEH campists put down the lathe.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago

Wild how we went from QAnon to Trump now pardoning Maxwell, time flies yada yada

[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I think certain media strategies make a lot more sense if you look at it as a private conversation said in public rather than simply a public statement. The FBI guy did one of these earlier this year on Epstein where he answered a question nobody in the room asked. It's easy to write it off as just poor presentation or trying to avoid other questions. But I think there is a deeper purpose and that is to let specific people or a specific person know something. If you contact them directly, that puts a clear line from you to them. If you shout in an public place and they happen to be there to hear it, you're talking to everyone.

So anyways, Ghislaine was visited last week by Bondi or Bondi's team. What Trump said here is to show Ghislaine he's ready to play ball on her pardon. It's not a Trump gaff. The plan may be to feign weakness, have the GOP put her in a congressional hearing where she says she never met Trump, and then pardon her. Is it an obvious gambit? Yes. But it's legal and there's enough plausible deniability for the 20% of Republicans that matter. Ghislaine goes to Israel for protection and Trump can move on with the Russiagate trial as a palette cleanser.

This has to be like watching the Warren Commission shit. Like a lot of the public agrees this is fishy and everyone is hoping someone will step in to stop it. But then it happens and a few years later you're the punchline of every conspiracy theorist caricature. There's going to be some MCU movie in 10 years with a tinfoil character and one of the heroes will quip "Oh you think Epstein's island was real too eh? pffft"

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There's going to be some MCU movie in 10 years with a tinfoil character and one of the heroes will quip "Oh you think Epstein's island was real too eh? pffft"

Sorta off topic, but I watched X-Men: Days of Future Past last night and I choked on my drink cackling when they got to the "DID MAGNETO KILL JFK?!?" part

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[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Ghislaine goes to Israel for protection and Trump can move on with the Russiagate trial as a palette cleanser.

Meanwhile chuds go 210% "Jews did it, Jews did it!" and go off the deep end on anti-semitism and pedophile blood libel shit into full on classic Nazism as a result. Some of the smarter white nationalists pre-positioned for this pivot will be there to scoop them up, having already positioned themselves as outside the mainstream on imperialism, antagonism against Russia, and being critical of the mainstream chud info-tainment sphere (Fox, other Trump bootlickers), etc. Within 2 years a deranged chud radicalized by this shoots up a synagogue or Jewish school while proclaiming they're stopping pedophiles.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ive seen red maga frothing mad chuds in the wild posting shit like uh, trump telling superman he (trump) is a hero before getting smacked and quipped with "heroes dont protect pedophiles" and like obviously that doesn't mean a lot but it's not nothin IMO. It's cracks in his support

I think a lot of his most vocal online hogs were really on that q anon shit and he's kinda giving incontrovertible evidence that it was all bullshit that, somehow, not even these people can deny any longer

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ive seen red maga frothing mad chuds in the wild posting shit like uh, trump telling superman he (trump) is a hero before getting smacked and quipped with "heroes dont protect pedophiles" and like obviously that doesn't mean a lot but it's not nothin IMO. It's cracks in his support

Until you remind them Trump’s blackbagging minorities by the hundreds of thousands. He’s giving them what matters, there are no cracks in his support.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

i didn't say they weren't still fascists

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Given how pissed off people are about the sudden pivot on Epstein to this point, i figure he's on track to get got by a melted brain Gen Xer libertarian who's memorized every episode of south park

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you've seen one episode, youve memorized every one

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Hey! you will miss plenty of celebrity and pop culture specific jokes that are extremely dated more than 3 months than they were made most the time!

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

Not beating the allegations, I see.

[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Which would be funnier? If she gets pardoned? Or Epstein'd

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

Pardoned but then Epstein'd before she actually gets released.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

i think pardoned definitely, epsteined could be "dastardly deepstate trying to frame trump"

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

Trump doesn't seem to understand his base (or most Americans for that matter) he's playing with fire

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

God please, it would be so funny

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I am begging everyone, from us to even the most brunch-loving liberal, play up the epstein angle at every turn. Call Trump and every rightoid a diddler.

This could be our gamergate moment if we play our cards right.

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