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[–] dead@hexbear.net 57 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The purpose of this CIA Harris video is for him to say that the US has defensive nukes, he says in the video that the US protects it's allies with nukes. Then he says that Russia, China, India, Pakistan, and North Korea have nukes for unknown and possibly nefarious reasons.

He doesn't mention Israel having nukes. During the sponsored, he uses "ground news" to examine whether Iran should have nuclear weapons. He says that Al Jazeera "downplays the threat" of Iran creating nukes and "casting doubt on the international narrative".

international-community-1 "international narrative" international-community-2

Then he pulls up an Israeli news site which says that Iran has the materials to produce 10 nuclear bombs. He says that Israel news "cuts right to the chase" but is only "slightly misleading".

He mentions the Cuban missile crisis late in the video. He doesn't mention that the US deployed nukes in Turkey prior to the USSR deploying nukes in Cuba.

I think the main purpose of this video is to fear monger Iran having nukes. The video also postures that China is acquiring nukes for nefarious global control.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

Title: nukes are super scary!

Me, after watching a fictional incineration of DC: so, where's the scary part?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You're probably right, but as long as it helps remind people that we're all fucked if a nuclear war starts then it's a net positive in my book.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago (8 children)

That's now how people perceive propaganda like this. They don't stop and think introspectively. They don't think, "wow, nobody should have nukes" or if they do then they don't walk away with any plan of action to pressure their own governments in the west to disarm. There is no call to action.

What is is meant to do is make you scared and impotent. Then when the time comes for action to be taken on your behalf you think, "this is getting rid of some nukes and that's good." So you end up saying some lib-ass shit like, "well I don't support the USA but isn't ensuring that Iran doesn't have nukes a net good? That's why I support bombing them." In the end this doesn't make the world safer from the nuclear threat. Instead, it makes us less safe because it ensures that countries understand that acquiring nukes is the only way they can ensure their sovereignty because not even the citizens of the western aggressors will oppose aggression.

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[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 61 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Nukes sure are scary, but there's only one country that ever used one. curious-sickle

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

USA used 2* even

*many more if you contest the sovereignty of many areas that were used for nuclear testing like the Atolls and the Mojave

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

The UK nuked Indigenous land in outback Australia

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

this is correct. the only country to ever use nukes is ChiRaNorthKoRussia

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 43 points 5 days ago (1 children)

any country that has used nukes on another country should be permanently banned from having nukes even if it was like 80 years ago, it's just fair

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Honestly, every country should be permanently banned from having nuclear weapons. The horror that even one, let alone the tens of thousands in existence today, can inflict is so unimaginable that I don't think any country can be trusted with them. Especially with how fallible humans and humanmade systems are— the likelihood of a purely accidental apocalypse is larger than is healthy to think about. I know it's an idealist position as nuclear powerhouses will never disarm and the US would probably do a second Manhattan project if there was no fear of nuclear reprisal.

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[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 44 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I don't like watching CIA Harris on principle, is it worth tuning into him for this?

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 25 points 5 days ago

Funny how this comes out recently after the attacks on Iran

[–] Hermes@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You are just as likely to get reliable information from a LLM.

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

I mean that basically describes my process watching him in the past. Sometimes vaguely useful for things I already knew a decent amount of and could smell bullshit for which is terrifying for anything I'm not knowledgeable in.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's nothing groundbreaking, but a decent overview of how apocalyptic a nuclear war would be. I'm kind of hoping that CIA Harris posting this might be an indication that at least some sections of the deep state understand that nuclear war would be bad.

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 39 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

when it's a youtube link, it often helps scrollers to know the channel name or creator:

Nukes are way scarier than you think | Channel Name

or something like that, otherwise it means opening in a private window to check

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I always make sure to do this, with the channel name in brackets at the front, and I would appreciate others doing it too.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

it would be kinda cool if hexbear itself could display the channel name alongside the post... but I guess we need to get thumbnails working before higher aspirations like that

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

huh, i didn't know hexbear didn't do that, we get this:

on grad
so you can hover over the channel image to see what channel it is

[–] TauZero@mander.xyz 14 points 5 days ago

Btw, if someone wants to check the channel name to decide whether to open it in a private window, and you don't have embeds blocked in some way, by the time you see the screenshot it's already too late and Google knows you were interested in it.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

image isn't loading for me, and I can't seem to upload images right now myself

I think something's broken

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 5 days ago

fair, I'll try to remember :)

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Incredibly high quality 3d animations this dude has and not a single credit for any animator or collaborator like you would expect with other channels. I am very suspicious that others are not credited because they would clearly be working in government or have searchable work histories that verify the accusations that he's working for feds.

[I am wrong and it was at the end of the video]

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh yeah it's very polished, and wouldn't be surprised if there's a fed connection there. Although, in this particular instance I would find it encouraging since it means the feds are trying to impress on people that nuclear war would be bad actually.

[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

or they're just trying to drum up panic again about iran acquiring nukes

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago

Or justify Trump's stupid golden dome

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[–] ea6927d8@lemmy.ml 29 points 5 days ago

*US having nukes all over the world*

We don't know why China is increasing its nuclear weapons capabilities so quickly.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"The living shall envy the dead." -Nikita Krushchev on a global nuclear war

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

That quote is actually from Long John Silver from the Soviet version of Treasure Island.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Something this video doesn't mention is that most people who join the US military (and probably most other militaries, but I can't speak to that) are either a bumbling moron, filled with bloodlust, or both. There's a lot of worry about intentional nuclear war caused by the depraved faction of the military, but not accidental nuclear war caused by the dumb faction. The chance that missiles are launched as a result of radar system malfunctions, early warning software bugs, poor communication, or even clicking the wrong button (I'm serious, if the interface to launch weapons is anything like the interface to warn people about launches, we're fucked) is higher than anyone would like to admit.

The fate of humanity is in the hands of a 22 year old Israeli vibecoder, an unsecured bomb, a bomber engine failure, the moon (the US almost ended the world after thinking the moon was a mushroom cloud), a bad radio signal and a dumbass on a nuclear submarine.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

(I'm serious, if the interface to launch weapons is anything like the interface to warn people about launches, we're fucked)

Good news. It's not. It requires turning keys which are kept in a locker and a very deliberate sequence of events including correct codes being given. If you mean could a deranged US president or a General Ripper type maniac send in an order for this to happen because they're a "moron" as you put it then sure but not in the way you might imagine of some scatter-brained chud coming into the launch control room drunk and typing a few things then falling asleep on a big red launch button.

As to radar system malfunctions. Unfortunately for the world but fortunately for your scenario the US runs the most comprehensive radar net in the world, stations put thousands of miles beyond their borders in layer after layer of radar coverage defense in depth plus space assets constantly surveilling the world. To launch a nuclear counter-attack you can't just say "ICBM headed for NYC according to radar in Canada" you have to establish WHO it came from to determine who to retaliate and fire against.

Probably the one thing the US nuclear arsenal has going for it is it's not modern networked, it runs on ancient systems and hopefully the zionist regime hackers therefore are unable to seize any control of it and cause false alarms as I'm certain they would if they could if their regime was falling.

So I'm not that worried about accidental nuclear war with the US at least. Now intentional nuclear war with the US trying to get the jump on and destroy an enemy to preserve its hegemony for another century? Absolutely a huge worry and I'm sure they'd do it to Russia or China if they thought they could succeed with acceptable losses on their side.

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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Oh yeah, there have been numerous incidents during the cold war when nukes were almost launched because of an accident.

As an elementary school kid in the early 60s, we hid under our desks during drills as protection from a nuclear war. How bad can nuclear weapons be, if a wooden desk is all you need to survive? 😜

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Here's a more concise and arguably better video on the topic by Kyle Hill: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CxkvsrSUyOU

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[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

In OP's defense, they're one of the most prolific posters on lemmygrad.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

wasn't trying to make a big deal about it, just really helps when browsing. never stop posting

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