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Israel's PR machine has a stranglehold on the democratic party leadership. It's a key part of their strategy depth - because if this American unconditional support for Israel is independent of which party is in power. They're going to do everything possible to maintain it.

Ethno-states were all the rage in 19th-century Europe. Everywhere they got into power, they oppressed religious and ethnic minorities and in some cases resorted to ethnic cleansing. The usual result is a deracinated one-size-fits-all national identity based on some self-serving myths about the dominant group, with resultant loss of diversity in the face of coerced conformity.

And now you have Castilians putting the boot to Catalans, Basques and Galicians, Serbs shitting on Bosnian Muslims, Croats and anyone else who's not Serbian, everyone fucking with Roma people, Germans in the 20th century murdering Jews, Turks murdering Armenians and expelling ethnic Greeks, and so forth ad nauseam.

The Zionists are no different in this regard, except perhaps that more effort went into constructing a Jewish national identity after than wide cultural divergences that occurred in the Diaspora-- for example, reviving the Hebrew language, which hadn't been in household use among Jewish people for over two millennia (for example, people in Roman-occupied Palestine spoke Aramaic or koine Greek).

And if it hasn't been made abundantly clear: I despite ethno-nationalism and regard it as a proto-fascist ideology that has caused untold harm. Only the few countries that decoupled ethnicity from national identity (such as Scotland and some of the Northern Tier countries) have avoided becoming brainless dystopic hellholes.

They're nationalists, yes. Specifically early Zionists wanted to form a Socialist State.

That is, they're National Socialists.

One day they will always have been against it tho

20 years? It probably went both ways.

This is his message that drew the condemnations:

“One day, everyone will have always been against this genocide. After 22 months of the most horrific crimes, there is no doubt that Israel is conducting the most evil cleansing in human history as we fund and watch it play out minute by minute.

Much love to so many of my Jewish friends who have stood up from the first weeks of this horror to say this is not in our name. We know that this was never about religion, rather a supremacist ideology created to destroy and conquer everything and everyone in its way. This is Zionism.

Zionists yearn to be the only victim and deflect from the evils perpetuated in its name. Instead of calling for an end to genocide, Zionists have bastardized antisemitism making the world less safe for my Jewish friends.

There is no middle ground in this supremacist mess. The rights stripped from Palestinians for decades are being stripped here now. The concentration camps in Gaza are being built here. Zionism has proven how evil our society can be, and sadly we are beginning to experience it here in our great Republic.

Now is our time to rise up and stand on the right side of history.”

He's talking about the Zionism that is perpetrating the crimes in Gaza. It is your choice to focus on a "not all zionists" take, and it is your choice to focus on the crimes being talked about. In my opinion, just like "not all men" is (at best) a silly response to legitimate grievances about rape culture, the "not all zionists" take is also (at best) silly in the face of apartheid, genocide and ethnic cleansing.

because the language means one thing to him, but a very different thing to some people who are reading it, and so they objected

Or they're acting in bad faith.

Fun fact, recognizing Israel as a country had wide support from antisemitic groups all across the US and Europe.

It was seen as a solution to get rid of the Jews once and for all. Just deport them all to the Middle East so that they're someone else's problem.

Using the same loose logic could easily be used to say that Zionism is antisemitic. It's the kind of stupid logic that conservatives use all the time to make the facts fit their feelings.

And Putin's flunky Trump should fuck off too.

While those men are unquestionably evil, if it wasn't them it would just be some other unquestionably evil person. They're a symptom, not the disease. I'm not disagreeing with you, they should absolutely 'vanish'.

I think a lot of people do not understand that Zionism actually does have a specific meaning and ideological underpinning spanning the last 150 years. It is not simply the contention that this place over in the Levant should be called Israel and have a bunch of Jews there.

So White Christian Nationalists wanting to have their own ethnostate and exterminate non-whites is bad, but Jewish Nationalists (Zionists) wanting to have their own ethnostate and exterminate non-Jews is ok?

The one-ethnicity, one-state idea is intellectually and morally bankrupt. It only works if all out-group members are either oppressed, expelled or exterminated.

I’m not against the people of Israel, just their stupid government.

Most of the "people of israel" support most actions by said government.
Most that are against the genocide are only because they want their kid-soldiers to come back to their families.
Look at previous governments, they've never been benevolent towards Palestine and when they tried their Prime minister got shot dead by one of their own.

Sure there are israelis that oppose the genocide on humanitarian grounds, but that's a slim minority (and probably mostly lives elsewhere).