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WASHINGTON (AP) — Empathy is usually regarded as a virtue, a key to human decency and kindness. And yet, with increasing momentum, voices on the Christian right are preaching that it has become a vice.

For them, empathy is a cudgel for the left: It can manipulate caring people into accepting all manner of sins according to a conservative Christian perspective, including abortion access, LGBTQ+ rights, illegal immigration and certain views on social and racial justice.

“Empathy becomes toxic when it encourages you to affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies,” said Allie Beth Stuckey, author of “Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.”

Stuckey, host of the popular podcast “Relatable,” is one of two evangelicals who published books within the past year making Christian arguments against some forms of empathy.

The other is Joe Rigney, a professor and pastor who wrote “The Sin of Empathy: Compassion and its Counterfeits.” It was published by Canon Press, an affiliate of Rigney’s conservative denomination, which counts Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth among its members.

These anti-empathy arguments gained traction in the early months of President Donald Trump’s second term, with his flurry of executive orders that critics denounced as lacking empathy.

As foreign aid stopped and more deportations began, Trump’s then-adviser Elon Musk told podcaster Joe Rogan: “The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.”

Even Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic convert, framed the idea in his own religious terms, invoking the concept of ordo amoris, or order of love. Within concentric circles of importance, he argued the immediate family comes first and the wider world last — an interpretation that then-Pope Francis rejected.

While their anti-empathy arguments have differences, Stuckey and Rigney have audiences that are firmly among Trump’s Christian base.

“Could someone use my arguments to justify callous indifference to human suffering? Of course,” Rigney said, countering that he still supports measured Christ-like compassion. “I think I’ve put enough qualifications.”

Historian Susan Lanzoni traced a century of empathy’s uses and definitions in her 2018 book “Empathy: A History.” Though it’s had its critics, she has never seen the aspirational term so derided as it is now.

It’s been particularly jarring to watch Christians take down empathy, said Lanzoni, a graduate of Harvard Divinity School.

“That’s the whole message of Jesus, right?”

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

In other news

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Matthew 23 is about these kinds of people. Recommended reading, even for fellow atheists. Keep in mind that the scribes and pharisees that Jesus calls out over and over again were the conservative leaders of his time - “pastors and politicians” - behaving just as ours do today.

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[–] Azal@pawb.social 34 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I had a really good preacher growing up. Probably a big part of why I don't hate all religion.

He spoke of compassion, of the teachings of the bible as he felt was to be a good person. Viewed being Christian as being like Christ as much as much as one was possible, but people fail to live up to it, that's our failings, but to believe is to still keep striving for that perfection.

2001 happened, and the hatred to Muslims came. Then one day, the preacher is talking about an extremist, one that is hated by the government, outspoken to the government, that people hated and reviled. A man from the middle east. "That is our lord and savior." You could have heard a pin drop in that room when everyone was figuring he was talking about a Muslim radical instead of Jesus. It was a call against the fear mongering, to love our neighbors even if we don't believe the same, to not assume the worst about people. He described how we usually get Jesus wrong in looks, that he'd be one of those we'd be persecuting post 9/11 America because of his looks, showing a magazine cover where a group of anthropologists reconstructed what Jesus likely looked like based on what they knew of the people of that region of that time, had the magazine on display in the hall where people gathered after worship.

It wasn't a year later that he was removed from being the preacher of that church. Probably a big part of why I'm not a believer anymore.

[–] SabinStargem 13 points 1 week ago

I think he won the best preacher's pulpit, one no corrupt church leadership can take away: Your heart. It will beat to his words, for many more decades to come.

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If people knew S.S. Jesus was healing leppers, then there would be no incentive for people to avoid leprosy.

-Supply-Side Jesus for the uninitiated.

Conservative christian culture makes people objectively worse.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 week ago

“They should have tortured Jesus even harder! I woulda fucked him up!”

-Modern Far-Right Christians

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 1 week ago

And the republican jesus said "hate one another as I hate you". He then dropped kicked a small child for being noisy and asked the disciples why they had let the small child through

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Jesus rather specifically says to take care of the poor and the widowed, etc.

Having no empathy is also one of the things that mark the evils of the end times.

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

NPD is literally the lack of empathy and compassion. Why would we encourage people to be objectively worse people by discouraging compassion?

[–] Reyali@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well it’s fine to have compassion… for the right people!

The whole thing is framed to make it out that these people are empathetic and caring, and that trait they have is being abused by the wrong people. Refusing to empathize with those people doesn’t mean they are no longer empathetic!!

(Total BS, obviously. But that’s the loophole that they use to make this argument.)

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is empathy a sin? Some ~~conservative Christians~~ narssists argue it can be

Mostly a venn diagram containing only one circle.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

This is at the heart of it. They are mostly narcissist.

[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

"Empathy is a sin" mfs when I kill them

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago

Key ingredient if you want fascism via christian nationalism. Oh, those gas chambers? Jesus blessed them!

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

now this is actual heresy

[–] MyOpinion 13 points 1 week ago

Being hateful bigots is also a sin.

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They're not actual Christians.

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[–] Newsteinleo@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago

My theory is that this is a play by the right to try an undermine anecdotal evidence and accounts used to persuade people. About a decade ago, the left tried to use data driven arguments while the right use anecdotal evidence, and studies have shown anecdotal evidence to be more persuasive. Now, the left has learned from its mistakes and is using anecdotal evidence and accounts, and it is proving to be effective in undermining the right.

Instead of pointing out the hypocrisy of Christians saying empathy is bad, because it doesn’t work, the left should lean into this narrative. Empathy is a way people will exploit you, data driven studies are the only thing you can rely on. Then fallow that up with explaining how to know if you can trust a data source.

If the left and use the rights own strategy against them instead of trying to fight against the strategy, it will be much more effective. They may be able to start realizing that global warming is real, and racism still exist in this country.

[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Empathy was dead in the church when they didn't back BLM. That's when I lost my religion.

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[–] halfsalesman@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

I might be an atheist's atheist, but if you are anti-empathy you aren't christian, you just like old testament for it's prejudice and horror.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Anyone who thinks empathy is in any way a bad thing is person who cannot be trusted in any way.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 10 points 1 week ago

What we don’t understand, we fear. What we fear, we judge as evil. What we judge as evil, we attempt to control. And what we cannot control…we attack.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's no hate like Christian... hate?

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It’s worth pointing out that empathy is different from sympathy and compassion.

Empathy is basically just understanding someone else. It doesn’t mean agreement or acceptance. Empathy is usually necessary in order to manipulate someone effectively.

That being said there is a component to empathy—sometimes called affective or emotional empathy—that reflects the phenomenon of emotional contagion, or how empathizing with someone else’s feelings can sometimes cause you to feel the same emotion on a lesser level.

Sympathy is understanding another person through shared or similar experiences.

Compassion is caring about someone.

What these Christians are talking about is the way there’s a trail from simple empathy to compassion that can cause some people to get over the bigotry and intolerance they have worked so hard to instill in them.

I have some of these Christians in my family. They are good people who have been taught rotten beliefs, and to avoid any critical thinking about said beliefs. I avoid associating with them as much as possible. Religion is a mind virus and these folks have one of the worst strains.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

"Conservative christian" is an oxymoron

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

If Christ lived today, these people would be in line, with hammers in their hands, to nail him to a cross.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago

The common factor found in all Nazis was a lack of empathy. Without empathy, we are capable of unimaginable cruelty.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"Empathy becomes toxic when it encourages you to affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies,” said Allie Beth Stuckey, author of “Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.”

Leave it up to Christians to argue that empathy can ve a bad thing

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[–] spaghettiwestern@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

"Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can't understand how these people can still look at themselves in the mirror. I guess I'm not very empathetic.

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[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For fucks sake, can ya all stop calling these heathens Christians? Sorry but to be called a Christian you need to follow teacheings of Christ, I know, not obvious at all! -.-'

And no, no jew-like bending rules around till they fit what you want either (wierd line hanged around...NYC IIRC...to allow them to "work" when their religion forbids?). You have the ten tenets, follow them dammit. These dumb fucks break them DAILY.

And that's before we even go into teachings of, you know, being empathetic towards your brethern. You can even replace Jesus with Superman and...ah, sorry, forgot USA conservatists hate him too.

FFS USA.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

You can "No True Scotsman" as hard as you want but they're nailing this shit to your church door like that was the only part they learned.

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