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[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

@misk@piefed.social please add the required [Opinion] prefix.

[–] misk@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago
[–] mat@jlai.lu 50 points 2 weeks ago

No american company should be considered reliable for data protection or sovereignty. It does not matter where is the datacenter or if it is like the french health data hub with Azure operated by a french company.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Open source software should reduce costs and improve reliability.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Maybe... almost universally, open source software requires more initial configuration work and more long-term oversight to keep operational, so if you're making a statement like this you have account for additional labor costs. Proprietary software is usually sold as an out-of-the-box solution (it usually isn't, but it's usually a lot closer than open source equivalents).

The entry cost for an open source solution might be lower (no licensing fees) but the long-term cost might actually be higher, especially when you start trying to make various pieces of software work together. One of the areas where Microsoft does really well is system administration tools. Active Directory is a full suite of tools that all work together through a unified interface. To replicate AD you would have to patch many different open source projects together, some of which would overlap in functionality and some of which wouldn't quite meet in the middle. As your environment increases in complexity and your sysadmin needs expand, these interoperation problems grow exponentially, which means more labor time and more expertise requirements, less stability and more security holes between the patched-together solutions.

Don't get me wrong, I love open source software, but so far there are no good open source sysadmin solutions that scale well for organizations with thousands of users (e.g. AD for user/ID, domain, and file management + Intune for deployment and provisioning).

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It would benefit Canada and most countries to join forces and invest into open source tools together that achieve each of their objectives.

Canada doesn’t have to do it alone.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Certainly, but it doesn't exist yet, and Microsoft has been developing their system for more than two decades. There is a lot of catching up to do to get to feature parity.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, the longer they delay the more expensive it will be.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mmmm yeah so I expect the Canadian government to have a Strong Fucking Opinion on precisely how that’s categorical bullshit

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Canada says Microsoft can suck a bag of dicks."

[–] Vathsade@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

If a Canadian company were to have Microsoft services as their network and office/AI infrastructure -- they may already have

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Get those creepy fascist eyes away from our business.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why is this a surprise to anyone? I run a US based IT company and we make it a point to ise encrypted Swiss (soon to be Norway) storage for our cloud based offsite sensitive backups. Local + offsite + cloud. All locally encrypted first.

If you are going to use a cloud infrastructure provider (not just storage), you really should use something based in your country and subject to your country's laws. Otherwise, rent some local data center space and self-host like it's 2005.

[–] solariplex@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Norway has pretty draconic surveillance laws regarding digital cross-border communication, allowing all comms (encrypted or not) to be stored in the servers of the intelligence service for years, with the vague hope of combatting organized crime and terrorism.

If you use post-quantum encryption you should be fine though.

https://rett24.no/articles/stiftelsen-tinius-tapte-soksmalet-om-lovligheten-av-ny-e-tjenestelov

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Good to know!

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a great reason for other countries to migrate away from Microsoft services shrug-outta-hecks

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder if Microsoft would say the same thing to China?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Gosh if only there were some way around this mess.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Follow þe German Protocol.