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The arrested man identified himself as a combat veteran and said he was burning the American flag in protest of an executive order Trump signed Monday targeting flag burning.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not illegal to burn the flag. Any flag.

[–] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

And executive orders are not laws.

[–] fedupwithbureaucracy@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

More confederates should have had their heads blown off instead of lukewarm acceptance back into the union

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some say that the war would have lasted longer and guerrilla campaigns continues and more martyrs... but I say fuck em' hard. That type of shit deserves nothing. All the plantations should have been split snd given to armed black farmers that are under federal protection with extremely stringent gun control on the south for a few decades to prevent an uprising.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Radical Republicans wanted to put General Sherman in charge of Reconstruction. That would have been cool.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

"Ok, if you survive being lit on fire you can have your plantation back. After I light it on fire."

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 108 points 4 days ago (13 children)

How can you make an executive order like that? That’s not exactly an order.

That would need to be a law, passed by Congress.

This dude has gone so fucking nuts with executive orders left and right out the ass, that no one is even asking wtf? It’s not supposed to be the magical “I can do anything” card. But everyone is ok with this I guess…

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Executive orders have been a big problem for over 20 years. Bush started it, Obama did nothing to stop it and exploited them himself. Someone like trump was inevitable, just a matter of time.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

It doesn't matter, Trump can legally do whatever he wants, he's a king. 1/3rd of the population of America believes that Trump can rule unilaterally. The other 2/3rds are scared of the first and they should be. Trump and MAGA have the executive branch, the judicial branch, the legislative branch, the armed forces, law enforcement, immigration enforcement, and wall street in their side. They only group not on Trump's side is the general public and it should be pretty obvious now that he doesn't have any use for the general public. Trump won. He's king of The United States of America, I suggest you start to think about what you're going to do about it.

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 37 points 4 days ago

Both congress and the Supreme Court handed ceded all their power to the executive branch. We have a dictator now, full stop. This country is run by the whims of a pedophile protecting (at best), rapist, criminal (convicted, not punished - REWARDED).

[–] xyzzy 24 points 4 days ago

It would need to be a Constitutional amendment unless the Supreme Court "reconsiders" precedent on this exact issue.

The executive order, like most others, is completely illegal, but when authoritarians control all the levers of power and have military on the streets of DC and the DC police answers to them, then who's going to stop them?

[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 22 points 4 days ago

Congratulations on waking up from your coma! A few things have happened since 2015. Let me help you get up to speed...

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[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Good for these people, make them charge you, make them have a grand jury charge you.

A grand jury won't bring charges on sandwich guy and they won't on this either.

The fucking boy scouts burn flags, American flags.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 123 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That was fast, good on that guy. Will this be a watershed moment when his infernal majesty's decrees are challenged?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 4 days ago (7 children)
[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 52 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most of his shit IS getting overturned. The doom and gloom isn't helpful.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago

Most, but not all. And the SCOTUS is eroding our rights one bribe at a time. If this goes to the highest court, are you certain we will still have the freedom of speech when it's over?

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[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (10 children)
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[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's such a stupid executive order because the only difference between so called desecration and retiring a flag is the your intentions in how you are setting the flag on fire

people should start holding solemn ceremonies to retire flags via fire in public and see how that goes as well

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, intent is very often a major defining factor whether something is illegal or not.

The difference between murder and manslaughter often hinges on whether there was intent.

And for something as stupid as loitering intent is the sole deciding factor for guilt.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If he was burning a book, the fascist cops would have joined-in

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Where can I contribute to the legal fund?

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Guy was already released actually

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[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (15 children)

Many U.S. veterans I know support the right of freedom of expression, to include flag burning. They say they feel its disrespectful but its the right they bleed for, for people to express themselves

I remember a case where this singer burnt an american flag in protest (I think korean war) and the president was grilled on his take on the matter and he daid that whats beautiful about our country, that we can do these things, and that im the countries we are fighting agianst thier citizens dont have the same freedoms as americans.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you aren't for freedom of speech when its an expression you don't agree with, you aren't for freedom of speech.

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[–] Univ3rse@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This idea that the military "fights for our freedom" needs to die. It's complete horseshit. The last conflict the US military was involved in that could remotely be considered as a defense of Americans (the populace, not the oligarchs) was WW2. Everything since has been neocolonialism and gangster activity. Even prior to WW2, their primary function over their life has been genocide and colonialism. It was the US military that brought the world concentration camps. If there is any hope for Americans, we need to kill the civic religion.

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Trunp and Magats are such effing snowflakes they need a safe space.

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Like prison?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Burn the Confederate flag.

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This ends with blood in the streets. We just need to decide whose blood.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I have some thoughts on that:

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[–] Guyonthecouc@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Y’all know this is just so they can replay clips of their “opposition” burning flags on Fox News. To vilify more people is the only goal here.

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] imdoneinteracting@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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