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radical for-profit “investment” in healthcare research, production, and administration makes outcomes worse, not better
not to be a raging commie but this upsets me
Rich people have higher chance of becoming doctors than smart people.
OUCH
never heard it that way before
twice as much money to live several years shorter and work that much closer to retirement, most likely
are you winning, america?
All that health care spending helps the GDP. Don’t you want the biggest GDP?
Inflation helps it even more. Devaluation of the dollar makes number go up!
Contrary to popular myth, most partners claim to prefer small or average-sized GDPs. A GDP that's too large can actually be painful or downright prohibitive.
me when i want to run the country like an arcade machine
What the hell Germany?!
research indicates germany’s lagging here is due to an excess of cardiovascular related deaths; thus, lifestyle factors like smoking, drinking, and sedentary-oriented infrastructure are a major factor
The money doesn't go into health care, it goes into profit.
You mean the ~$200/hr contract cleaners at the nonprofit "rehab center" our 80something year old parents go to is going to profit? no way!
Now multiply that single contract worker doing cleaning to all aspects of building maintenance, medical devices... and unbelievably these are all for-profit entities acting as vendors are owned by the same entity that owns the nonprofit healthcare facility.
I'm not making this up, sadly.
Life in the US may be intolerably expensive and exploitative, but look on the bright side - at least it's short.
It’s not about keeping you healthy. It’s about making someone else rich.
I wonder if the life expectancy is calculated as a birth-to-death or weighted to reduce the effect of infant mortality, which I imagine is also worse in the US.
If not, I wonder how our anti-abortion and anti-women legislation contributes to that life expectancy reduction in addition to the lack of access to healthcare.
High healthcare costs also add to childhood mortality as parents are less likely to bring their kids in for preventative care
not to be a raging commie
oh but please do :3
Don't worry guys, we're folding to MAGA pressure in the EU and our conservative parties are working hard to privatize our healthcare so it can be just as shitty as yours.
No we are not going to; and we are going to combat that.
You've been moving in that direction for decades. Neoliberalism is not an exclusively American phenomenon.
Oh, I know. But our neoliberalism isn't as far thorough as in the US, and criticism on it is widespread here.
It's less that investment is bad and more that no amount of investments is going to improve general life expectancy if healthcare isn't affordable, or at all available, for poorer people. I think other countries with more sensible healthcare systems actually greatly benefit from american medical research.
Also damn, didn't know Germany's life expectancy is that much worse than than even countries like UK and Belgium that aren't exactly known for healthy living or good public policies.
The UK used to have one of the best healthcare systems in the world. If we don't fix it soon I'd imagine our life expectancy is going to drop soon.
The main problem is comparing America to other wealthy liberal democracies. We're closer to lower income countries with far more authoritarian governments at this point, and we'll only get closer with time. Comparisons to Russia and China would also be quite apt, as they're in similar imperial positions.
Cuban has a higher life expectancy, and would be off the left side for cost. Turns out if you use your authoritarianism to force all the people who want to be doctors to go to college and become doctors, you get shittons of healthcare.
I hear healthcare is great when you ignore black women.
nah, it even sucks as for white men at this point. Nobody except the uber rich like our system
I mean, you're kind of right? It is much worse for black women though. The rate's of infant and maternal mortality are shockingly higher for them, let alone other health outcomes. As well you've got the case of Adriana Smith, which yes, could absolutely happen to a white woman. However, it's not really surprising the case they used to normalise the concept was a black woman.
the whole culture of medicine is infected with conservative quacks whose first line of treatment for non-white-men is trying to convince patients they don't need treatment
No no, see, you forgot to convert between metric years and US years.
1 US year is 0.95 EU years just like how 1 woman dollar is 85 man cents
In my defense I'm a little stoned, but I couldn't find the US flag for a moment it's such an outlier.
A public health system can focus on the prevention of health problems, which saves a lot of money... and lives. The private sector has no interest in that.
Considering the obesity rate, the money could still be well-spent.
