People don't seriously try to use Kali as a daily driver, do they? That's just a meme, right? Right?
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there was a point where script kiddies thought using Kali meant installing Kali, so at one point yes it has been used as a daily driver.
I remember having a conversation with a coworker who was getting into Linux when Kali was a big deal for script kiddies. He told me he installed it and I was like "dude you want it to be a read only OS, don't install it. Just boot to it from a CD or USB." We went back and forth on that for weeks until I just gave up and labeled him an idiot in my mind.
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When I was a kid I installed it and was like "hooHOO, me hacker", so there are silly things like that.
Nevermind me being too intimidated by CLI to do anything in Linux at the time lmfao.
It's been a while since I've thought about it, so what are the reasons why it's a bad daily driver? I assume there's poor support for drivers, hardware, etc.?
Or is it when you do pen testing you don't want to leave traces of yourself? I'm not a cybersecurity guy, so I genuinely don't know.
so what are the reasons why it's a bad daily driver?
Don't need to go any further than "default user is root."
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From the FAQ of the site & its legendary navbar:
Q : How/why did you make such a great OS?
A : I thought - what would attract young users to Linux? So I created this idea after a lot of reading and work.
What the fuck the do you have a life question is so offensive! Stop trying to just be edgy in memes!
I'm so sick of these stupid stereotypes that the Linux community has. I'll have you know that I use both Debian and Fedora and I do not in fact have a life.
Replace kali with nixos, and it'd be accurate 😁 Also, gentoo.
And Kali is more like "are you older than 13 → no"
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I do like privacy, but I also have a VR headset so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ windows it is
Yeah, honestly, when Windows packaged Telemetry data collection it was a controversy but people quickly found out how to disable it.
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Why are both Debian and Debian: Kidz Edition on there?
Some people have kids, I guess.
Am I stupid. Most Linux users I know are more paranoid about tech than anyone else
The difference between paranoia and fear is the difference between not wanting to buy a Google Home because it listens to you and not wanting to buy a Google Home because you're afraid you'll break it.
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I have been using the same Arch installation for about 8 years. The initial installation/configuration is the only time consuming part. Actual day-to-day usage is extremely easy.
Maybe this is no longer the case but I previously used Ubuntu and it was actually much more annoying in comparison, especially when upgrading between major revisions or needing to track down sources/PPAs for packages not in the main repos. Or just when you want something more up-to-date than what they're currently shipping.
The rolling release model + the AUR saves so much time and prevents a lot of headaches.
You may have just sold me on Arch.
I have never been able to hold down an Ubuntu install for very long without getting that dreaded you have held broken packages scold.
Yeah, I love Arch for the same reasons. Try installing it in a VM and using it a bit, and you'll see that it's quite an easy OS to use now.
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Ubuntu has caused me far more headaches and downtime than Arch. Go figure.
And to make this be a worthwhile comment: I wonder if it is because I use Arch (and derivatives) that Ubuntu causes issues. When something isn't right, I try and fix it. In Arch I can. In Ubuntu it seems like a dozen paper cuts to get there and it may not work in the long run anyway. Oh the Snap doesnt have foo compiled in? No problem I can add it to the snap directory. No, that didnt work. Ok I will remove it and bring in a .deb file. Dependencies not met. Fine, I will compile it from source..... and by that time I have wasted a TON of time.
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I don't get all the Apple hate from the Linux community. Out of the box you have a fully usable *NIX machine
they even switched the default shell to zsh! No advertising in the Start menu, and ssh (client and server) included by default. Install homebrew and boom
tmux, htop, nload, lolcats.....most of your favorite tools can be installed easy as on any linux distro.
I use Debian for personal use, and I much prefer it...but basically only because I prefer i3 to the Mac GUI.
Virtually non-repairable hardware I'm especially salty on disks and keyboards. The SMCs have been garbage for years.
Expensive as hell.
Crappy default package management. Crappy heat management. Years of ignoring customers wants (escape key). Their logs are half-assed. Xcode is pretty trashy and they keep doing non backwards compatible upgrades for things. Once* a box reaches a number of years old You can't get OS updates anymore then you can't have xcode versions updates anymore.
They're pretty, They have great battery life, and they're *nix but the advantages fall apart pretty quickly when you start digging into them.
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EOL support. I have a 11-12 year old System76 laptop. Works perfectly on the latest Ubuntu version.
Their shitty walled garden for both software (iOS) and hardware (soldered components that don't need to be).
Overpriced.
Fake sense of privacy.
I used Mac OS 6.x through 10.4. When I was in college and couldn't afford to replace my aging G4, I triple booted Fedora, Mac OS X, and Windows on a hackintosh where I gravitated towards mostly Linux and Windows for a couple games. Owned a couple iPhones but decided to role Android when the nexus 6 came out to save some money when I had my first child on the way and my current phone was dying.
I don't miss anything I left behind. Had a short stint at work during COVID where I was given a MacBook. While not horrible, I ran into enough nuances I was able to justify to my work using a Linux laptop instead. I just don't find anything appealing to give them my business.
Apple is an awful company that screws thee customers over every chance they get
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read fedora as facebook and then just imagined facebook putting out a facebook distro
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Hey I'm on Ubuntu because I'm lazy, not because I have a life
Ubuntu shouldn't be with those who care about privacy. Snap is completely integrated into Ubuntu now.
What do we do with your information?
Your information is stored in our database and may be processed outside of the European Economic Area.
Canonical LTD.
https://ubuntu.com/legal/data-privacy/snap-store
They're going to be just as bad as Apple, Google or Microsoft if they're given the market share. Corporations care only about one thing.
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I fear technology, but in the "Technology will destroy us all unless we get a really good handle on it" kind of way. I use debian.
I don't understand why Windows is on the "no" side of "do you fear technology?"
Well, the other side would be operating systems you can't really screw up too badly because they are locked down harder, so perhaps it's fear of the unknown?
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i’m gonna get crucified for giving apple a single benefit of a doubt but i think there are just as many windows users who “fear technology” as mac ones. think of all the grandparents running shitty dollar store pcs. mac is only a walled sandbox until you turn off the safeguards, then you can see exactly as much dumb back-end shit as you can on windows
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Arch has been more of a "just works" distro for me than OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, Debian and Fedora.
Arch Installation nowadays goes like this:
iwctl
device list
station *device* scan
station *device* get-networks
station *device* connect *SSID*
archinstall
And you only need the first 5 lines if you're installing from wifi.
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Okay what is the Tux Jigsaw Puzzle one?
Also Gentoo?
Linux from scratch, a subdivision of really having nothing else to do
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I actually switched to openSUSE Tumbleweed from Ubuntu and love it. I know it's not as popular, but I can't see why. Rolling release, compatibility, support, it's awesome!
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What if you don't fear technology, have no life, and are technologically behind and don't understand what anything but the apple and windows symbols are? I recognize the penguin from an EEE PC that I had like 15 years ago, but that's it.
*Sorry I also recognize Google, just not immediately apparently.
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