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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls βthe plateau of sustainabilityβ
Facts on Suse there
Twelve years in, cloud engineer, have Mint on all my home machines cos i dont have to think about it. I like your chart but its dumb.
I assume Hannah Montana Linux is off the chart to the right
Hannah Montana Linux, or HM/Linux as I've taken to calling it, is the sign of true civilization.
I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the "Dunning-Kruger effect". Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn't posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.
And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don't shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it's a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.
There's a thing across Africa called "joking cousins." Unlike genuine bad-blood tension between different ethnic groups that can often exist, it's a jovial sibling rivalry style of thing. I've always seen the distro thing a bit like that. It gets tiring, but it's sort of hard-coded into human nature to joke about slight differences when we're all in the same tribe.
Though, this graph is silly for the reasons you mention - I think that might be intentional as part of the joke. It's stupid, so clearly OP is daily driving Kali and hacked the central database to add the distro logos. I dunno, maybe I'm explaining it away too easily.
Starting fights today are we?
why is manjaro there twice? it's a horrible experience no one in their right mind would return to
βMaybe I was the problem?β
they managed to make arch less stable, never update their ssl cert, and every installation slowly falls apart until it's unusable... sure, I'm the problem
You are, by installing it in the first place.
My guess before reading the comments:
"Everyone hated that."
& then people return to PopOS, ubuntu, LinuxMint & Debian.
Meh, everyone who goes SUSE never goes back, I dub the phenomenon the SUSE-Hole
This. Iβve gone βround the Cape of Distros and found myself reinstalling Linux Mint on all of my older computers because it just fucking WORKS without complaint or issue.
Using Fedora on my newer laptop, but for a distro that you donβt have to think about at all and just USE, Mint is hard to beat.
Mint, and I'll stay with mint. Perhaps I'm not a good Linux user material, but I just want something that works and doesn't get into the way. You know: a reliable, unobtrusive operating system.
And thereβs no shame in that! Use whatever works for you and donβt let anyone tell you otherwise.
Full circle, back to Mint
This is pure rage bait.
Meh, I'm relatively experienced and just use Ubuntu
That's because you use your computer and it's not part of your personality. I'm reasonably well versed in Linux and I've used Pop for years.
I'm gonna put this out there: If you can do Endeavour or Manjaro, you can do Arch, and Arch is in no way less stable than Tumbleweed. All you need to do is to pick btrfs and enable snapshots and then never use them.
I've been working with Linux for the better part of 20 years at this point. Ubuntu is perfectly fine my time is too valuable to spend numerous hours fucking around getting shit to work properly. If that makes me an idiot then I'm happily an idiot.
I get that many people have issues with snap, SystemD or whatever else they want to throw out. I don't give a shit. You're whinging into the wind over nothing burgers.
i'm on NixOS
...and I've been on NixOS for mount stupid, valley of despair and, perhaps, the plateau of sustainability
I want to see a graph where X ranges from "ambitious" to "I'm so tired", and Mint is at the end. That's where I'm at.
Linux experts vastly overestimate the amount of annoyance average people will put up with. Most people just want it to work, and want to learn almost nothing. I don't blame them, Linux is a means to an end.
Oh fuck of with this bullshit. This is why linux is not on more PCs, this distro elitism.
30 years of using Linux and I think this chart is whack. RPM based distros run by enterpises are the worst. I was happier with Slackware than Fedora. π€£ I only use those when work forces me too and after the CentOS and SLES fiascos - F that noise. I'll only recommend debian for work servers unless there are STIG/FedRAMP security requirements and then it's begrudgingly over to Ubuntu.
When work isn't in the way: EndeavourOS on my desktop, Debian on my servers, and debian/alpine for my containers or better yet; golang and scratch.
I know nothing, and I'm keeping it that way
My system of choice is Mint, btw
Ubuntu and Mint need to be repeated on the far right (the actual Sesame Street definition of "right", not Nazis)
Debian is love. Debian is life.
This probably outs me as an old fart, but my first computer experiences were with assembly and BASIC intepreters, then things like COBOL, Fortran, and Pascal.
I remember when Bill Gates got his panties in a wad over people sharing MS BASIC and always tried to steer clear of M$ products from then on, although I did have the common misfortune of having to use Windows in several work environments throughout my career. Luckily, the last I ever had to touch as an admin/user was Windows 7.
My personal desktop OS history is as follows:
Solaris -> OpenBSD -> Slackware -> Debian -> SuSE -> Mandrake -> Gentoo -> Redhat -> Fedora -> Sidux -> Arch -> OpenSUSE -> Mint.
I stick with Mint because I don't want to spend my time tinkering on the OS, and it makes helping all the noobs/non-techies I have convinced to switch to Linux over the years that much easier. This is well over a hundred at this point, and you know who most of them come to when they have a problem. With Mint, they seldom have any issues.
The years I spent tinkering taught me a lot, especially on the rolling OSes, but these days I appreciate having a system that just works reliably, so I can spend my time tinkering on my own projects instead. I have VMs for other OSes as needed anyways.
Now you damn kids get off my lawn!
I went Kububtu -> Pop -> Arch with Sway -> Fedora KDE -> Arch again, now with KDE. I like Arch, been using it for years now and no interest of switching.
