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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 105 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Anyone who is mad about Biden should consider that Trump's people are ready and willing to nuke the entire Middle East on the chance that it will start the Rapture.

Half a loaf is better than getting shot.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 81 points 11 months ago (75 children)

Like, it's not even a close call. And I'm still not seeing how biden's actual record isn't a factor. He's done a pretty solid job with the resources he's got. A good chunk of Congress is a terror cell at this point, the supreme Court is stacked with zealots appointed for life, and he's still managed to get a lot of good stuff done.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's managed to get a lot of okay stuff done, which was better than expected.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

People keep saying this as though presidents in the past get SHIT LOADS done, when in reality most of them don't do shit and the Republican ones start wars, give money to the rich and crash the economy.

So you can't even compare him to previous presidents becuase previous Republican presidents have been DISASTERS.

So we can only really compare him to previous Democrat presidents and I'd say he's gotten more done than most of them.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At this point, lauding Biden is a waste of time, because the GOPs will go straight to 'whaddabouts' and sidetrack the discussion with lies.

I don't talk about voting for Biden, it's all about stopping Donnie.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I mean, that's kind of been the strategy this whole time and it's not doing very well. Conservatives are a lost cause, we should be soley focused on driving turnout of Democrat voters and people who don't vote. Those groups are all saying they want something/someone to vote FOR, not just someone to vote against. Donald Trump is clearly an existential threat to our entire democracy, but these people aren't worried about that. They're worried about paying their bills. They want someone to make their day to day lives better and Biden has done a lot of things that help every day Americans, theyve just never heard about it.

The pitch needs to be "here's what we've gotten done even with Republicans fighting against all of it along the way. Send me a solid Democratic majority in Congress and we'll get X, Y, Z done." Get Jeffries and Schumer to have legislation prepared and ready to go that the caucus will pass without a single GOP vote if necessary. Then, most importantly, follow through and pass that shit.

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[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Is he not aware he's gonna be gassed with the other browns?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He thinks he's white. He also pushed the Great Replacement bullshit.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 25 points 11 months ago (8 children)

There's a pretty morbidly interesting interaction between Hindu nationalists and Nazis in that the modern Hindu nationalists seem to think Hitler thought they were "Aryan peoples" and thus he's not talking about them when he goes on about untermensches.

Which is on the face understandable, given actual history, but is ignorant of so many, many things about the Nazis, primarily that they lived a "race science" fantasy that had absolutely no historical basis.

Not that I know anything about Ramaswamy, but if he is babbling about Great Replacement like he thinks they don't think he's the replacer that is probably a big reason why.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it because he used their logo?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 11 months ago

It's because nationalists are dumb, ignorant weirdos that don't live in reality, but they do have that in common with each other, so, ultimately, kinda?

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[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As soon as the debate ended, CNN began post-game coverage

This is the problem with US politics. Turn your elections into a sports match and people are gonna tribe up. Total circus.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Turn the news into a for-profit industry, and you get competition for eyes.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

While the news has always been a for-profit industry, Citizens United turned election years into billion dollar windfalls for news outfits.

I’m pretty sure that’s why USA Today owns almost all the local papers in my state. They can float the payrolls between election years, or cut a bunch of local reporters and send their own around following primaries in the state with the most campaign money each week.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)

One thing I have learned from GOP in last 3 years is that If you repeat a lie non-stop over and over again it eventually becomes the truth.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The truth to them, not to the rest of the planet.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, it may very well prove to be "truth" to enough people to get Trump re-elected. Remember, we're now in an era where "Truth isn't Truth" (Rudy Guiliani) and people are "entitled to their own 'alternative facts'" (Kellyanne Conway). An era where personal grievances are valued over objective facts, and people will vote against their own best interests just for the possibility of hurting "them". We are now living in an idiocracy.

Here's the problem. Donald Trump could say that Biden has monkeys flying out of his ass terrorizing Washington DC in search of bananas. Now, you and I both know that's ridiculous and, in any sane world, should be ignored for the stupidity it is. But here's the problem. You can say how stupid the idea is all you want, but if 51% of people you need to vote for you have serious concerns about monkey's flying out of Biden's ass, then he needs to either come up a plan to handle flying monkeys, or sit by the wayside as Trump gets re-elected because voters were too concerned over monkeys flying out of his ass.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump just throws shit at the wall to see what sticks. If something he says doesn't resonate, he just starts staying something else. If pushed back on something he said, it was just a joke and you're being sensitive.

It doesn't matter how absurd the shit he says, he'll suddenly tack on "everyone's saying" or "you know it, I know it, everyone knows it" except the people you don't like. They're stopping you from it.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Trump just throws shit at the wall to see what sticks. If something he says doesn’t resonate, he just starts staying something else. If pushed back on something he said, it was just a joke and you’re being sensitive.

The problem is the amount of shit that ends up sticking to the wall.

It doesn’t matter how absurd the shit he says, he’ll suddenly tack on “everyone’s saying” or “you know it, I know it, everyone knows it” except the people you don’t like. They’re stopping you from it.

It's one of his many tells. When he uses phrases like that, that's how you know he's not only full of shit, but knows he's full of shit. I've always wanted to play poker with the man; he's so god damned stupid I could beat him holding the 2 of diamonds and a basic Forest from Magic: the Gathering.

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[–] Syringe@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"CNNs Dana Bash puts microphone in front known liar and is surprised when he lies"

Fucking media. Stop giving attention to these clowns.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

just another bullshit artist

aint you yanks got your fill of that shit yet? fuck.

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

“Incited”? Why didn’t they just comply? If they had just complied nothing would have happened to them! /s

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

So this is there plan around releasing the footage. Expect most people to not watch it and gaslight about it?

Strategies used here:

  • Gaslighting
  • Firehose of Falsehoods
[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What a massive massive bullshitter. He'll have a great career as a politician.

[–] books@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

He's scary fucking confident

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 11 months ago

Vivek doesn't have a chance. He's so lazy, he's repeating these ancient conspiracy theories that have long since run their course. Just more evidence that he's in it for the notoriety, since he can't be bothered to come up with anything novel.

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