this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2023
317 points (97.3% liked)

politics

19104 readers
3618 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said he would support the legal fund of a man who is accused of vandalizing a display by The Satanic Temple inside the Iowa Capitol on Thursday.

Michael Cassidy was charged with fourth-degree criminal mischief for knocking over and destroying a statue erected by the temple inside the capitol, The Des Moines Register first reported.

“Satan has no place in our society and should not be recognized as a ‘religion’ by the federal government,” DeSantis said on X, formerly Twitter. “I’ll chip in to contribute to this veteran’s legal defense fund. Good prevails over evil — that’s the American spirit.”

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 209 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Ron is falling for the trap. This ends with all religious symbols being removed.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 101 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Actually, I think this likely ends with Michael Cassidy paying TST for vandalizing their statue. Which means ol' Ronnie is effectively making a donation to TST.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They should send him a thank you letter with the Tenets and sign him up for their mailing list

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

TST is not evil. They would not add him to their mailing list.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

They would if there was a chance he'd read them:

"The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions"

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

They don’t have a mailing list actually. Likely because people would sign up religious people just to be annoying.

[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who knows with this Supreme Court..

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The Supreme Court would have to rule Christianity is the only legal religion which violates established law.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 71 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

They could pull the same bullshit they did with the Pledge and the Motto, saying that they were culturally relevant and had no religious effect because nobody takes the pledge or the motto that seriously. "Nativity scenes have a long tradition in local govern buildings yadda yadda christofascism."

[–] LeadSoldier@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fact that the supreme Court can use that argument is insane. Is not washing our hands before surgery American tradition? Is slavery American tradition? Just because we've done something before, doesn't make it legal in any other topic area.

Americans also just renamed some of their Christian holidays in order to pretend that there's equality. My daughter still has to do homework during Chanukkah every night but gets the week of Christmas off but now the same exact vacation from school is called "winter break" so it's totally "not religious now."

[–] ZzyzxRoad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

My daughter still has to do homework during Chanukkah every night but gets the week of Christmas off

Was just thinking about this with my college, as finals week is during Chanukkah. I don't think concessions should be made for any religion, but it's definitely a blatant sign that christians think they are more important than everyone else and that it's essentially already the state religion in the US.

[–] skydivekingair@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

That would be an argument for not putting the statue up, not a solid case that a random citizen has the right to destroy the property. The statue was up and he has the right to petition or sue for removal, not to take it into his own hands even if the statue was up illegally. But I’m not a law person so I could be off the mark.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

So, completely plausible.

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

Like that would stop them.

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not in Iowa. I live here. They will absolutely remove the Satanic symbol and proclaim that it is because of religious freedom.

...it will make sense to them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

The courts will not take the same view though. And that's the point.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

No, it doesn’t. It ends with only Christian shit remaining.

[–] Cranakis@lemmy.one 91 points 11 months ago

Good prevails over evil — that’s the American spirit.

Which is why the Satanists should prevail Ron.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

As a Florida resident I have the same comment in my head whenever this idiot racist homophobic governor says shit like this, and that is "don't you have better shit to do?" Because look at all of the problems in this state, meanwhile this idiot is so blinded by his fucking culture war and his religious servility or the lure of the power that these things bring to him.

Meanwhile he's got staffers making campaign videos with Nazi iconography while real Nazis are parading around the state threatening the many Jewish folks here, he's got an entire coastline that's collapsing to unusability because not just he but his predecessor and his entire political party believe that if you ban the term "climate change" from political dialogue the problem will just magically go away. Then you have this fucktard interfering with our already garbage and broken school system, and interfering not in ways to make it better but much much worse, and then making college worse for the actual adults who should be allowed to make their choices on if they want to explore gender or racial studies, while also not having propaganda that literally tells them "it's okay the slaves benefitted from slavery" forced on them because of a bunch of political assholes trying to reshape the world to be more accepting of checks notes fucking slavery.

Fuck Ron DeSantis, fuck Rick Scott, and fuck the Florida GOP, they are garbage people making a vulnerable overly populated state much much worse, the GOP doesn't fix things, they hoard power and wealth that's their only real purposes.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"don't you have better shit to do?"

What could possibly be more important to a politician than pandering for votes?

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Slandering women and minorities?

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago

It's too close to election season to focus on that

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That's the main problem with the GOP, they're too much "politician" and not enough "leader" or "fixer", it's all about greed and power with them rather than trying to solve problems for the people that they're supposed to be responsible.

Part of the problem is also conservatism/"libertarianism", like what's the point of being elected to government positions when you don't even believe the government should exist? They're just saboteurs undermining efforts to drag this country into the future.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the same guy who had the Nazi campaign video posted on his campaign website? Just checking

[–] endhits@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Plavatos@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Apparently It was a staffer who was since fired, or at least that's who took the fall for it.

Can't find the video for you but here's the still frame in question:

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Anyone else remember a thing called separation of church and state?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 33 points 11 months ago

It's nothing more than this shit stain trying to save his flailing and ultimately horrendously unsuccessful campaign.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

If Christ was real he’d be so fucking embarrassed by this the violent idiotic assholes that pretend to follow him.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago

Classic legal defense in a country that constitutionally cannot favor one religion over another, "it was illegal but we favor your religion to prevail over this other one so it's fine."

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Goooood Gooood let the lack of religious freedom flow through your public support Ron. let your ignorance be your guide

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not that it matters, but I can't tell if you're saying "good good," "good god," or "god god"

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

I was emulating palpatine's "good, good."

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

DeSantis promising other peoples' money for causes that money was not donated for isn't on anyone's bingo cards at this point, because it's practically a given.

Let's not forget that DeSantis used Florida taxpayer money, which was ringfenced for dealing with migrants in Florida, to pay his friend's chartered airline business to ship migrants from Texas to Massachusetts - an act that had no benefit to Florida whatsoever, but certainly benefited his friend's chartered airline (which DeSantis uses frequently on the State taxpayer's dime without disclosing his expenditure.

Criminals gonna crim.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

lol get fukt

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

If the government doesn't recognize Satan as a religious figure I've got bad news about Jebus...

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Ron DeSantis (R) said he would support the legal fund of a man who is accused of vandalizing a display by The Satanic Temple inside the Iowa Capitol on Thursday.

Michael Cassidy was charged with fourth-degree criminal mischief for knocking over and destroying a statue erected by the temple inside the capitol, The Des Moines Register first reported.

It consisted of a figure of the demon Baphomet with a bejeweled goat head alongside prayer candles.

“We don’t want to yield some kind of power to the government to begin picking and choosing between religious groups,” Satanic Temple co-founder Lucien Greaves said in a CNN interview Thursday.

Cassidy’s legal defense fund raised more than $20,000 in just its first few hours, Newsweek reported, including $10,000 from conservative activist group Turning Point USA.

Cassidy previously ran for a Mississippi congressional seat in 2022, losing to Rep. Michael Guest (R-Miss.)


The original article contains 402 words, the summary contains 147 words. Saved 63%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Doesn't Satan need you back in hell, DeSantis? Please return promptly so you can answer your true Master in person.

[–] art@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Don't sully her name like that. Satan would want nothing to do with an evil like DeSantis.

load more comments
view more: next ›