The US is so fucking dumb.
Let's make murdering someone as easy as pointing and clicking, can't be any consequences from that!
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America was founded by guns and it is chock full of them. There is no way to put that genie back in the bottle.
There literally is, it's called a constitutional amendment and they've been enacted many times before.
Of course, there's not the political will for it, because, like I said, The US is so fucking dumb.
"Hey guys, they passed a constitutional amendment. We better turn all our guns in."
-Like 4 Americans
Guns wouldn’t disappear overnight ofc. But make owning guns illegal, arrest people who own them and create buyback programs. It might take some time. It might be super fast.
But you know what for sure wouldn’t solve anything? Doing nothing.
Like I said:
The US is so fucking dumb
Australia did it and it worked pretty well for them. You just make gun ownership illegal, ask for them back in a reasonable timeframe, and then tell the cops to stop murdering unarmed black people for a minute to go chase down the rest of the guns that weren’t turned in at the end of the process. Then when youre done, you disincentivize bad actors by ramping up the penalties for gun possession significantly, and actually enforce those laws.
It’s not hard, just needs to be done.
If people want to be felons that's their choice, but it's absurd to suggest any armed resistance would occur, or matter, in such an instance
As the previous person said there is no way to get it done. Yes there is something called a constitutional amendment, but if there is no realistic way to get it passed then effectively there is no way to get it done.
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Sure there is. It's easy.
Just start giving black people guns.
The so-called second amendment absolutists will be calling for draconian gun control measures within a week.
I'm pro gun and I want most black people to own guns.
We already do that. They're perfectly welcome to defend themselves and even more so given our police.
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"Arm the homeless"
Here's a solution:
Ban straw sales/gun show loopholes, improve auditing/background checks, do gun buybacks above rate, and ban AR sales after X date. Bought before the date, you're grandfathered in but can't sell/gift the weapon.
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I think it's sad how you Americans have to defend themselves with a gun while police won't do real shit.
Oh police will show up eventually and you'll wish they hadn't. There's no situation that police can't make worse.
I think it's great that we Americans have the right to effective self defense, because our police are mostly worthless. It sure would suck worse to not have the right to effective self defense AND have worthless police.
i like guns but don't a bunch of other states have bans like this? how could it be unconstitutional in Cali but not in the other states that have had laws like this for years
The CA law went further than other states. It for example it included most places as sensitive places (including random things like gas stations that sell lottery tickets) and required businesses to post a sign to allow people to carry on their premises.
In the list of the top ten most likely places for violent crime to occur in the US, gas stations and convenience stores are 3rd or 4th depending on the year. Not so random.
That violence is not from people who are legally carrying guns
No, a few states passed this in response to Bruen. All of them have been challenged but this is the first to get a ruling.
Not wanting to die from an ectopic pregnancy = not found in the Bill of Rights
Wanting to carry around a machine whose only task is murder = covered in the Bill of Rights
Makes perfect sense
Settler-colonial white supremacist patriarchal society founding a country didn’t care about rights of women, but they did care about ensuring the settlers would be armed for their planned displacement and genocide of the indigenous population across the rest of the continent.
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