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[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 61 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

The Washington Times has an extreme right editorial bias, but it's interesting they are covering this.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Even with that bias, this particular article is pretty damned factual. The only hint of bias I saw was "Mr. Trump."

Compare to reporting from The Hill.

[–] Krackalot@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I believe that's because the extreme right views this comparison as a good thing.

[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] lemmydripzdotz123@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I believe they are pointing out that, despite the fact that this is being done by a group that is trying to make Trump look bad, it will be viewed as making him look good to those on the far right. They like dictators so long as they're part of the in-group.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Thinking you're part of the GOP in group is some real magical thinking. I bet there is a real coalition of wealthy people that stand to benefit from a GOP dictatorship. I bet it is 10000-20000 people max. That leaves the millions of "temporarily disenfranchised GOP oligarchs" that are signing their rights away.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thinking you’re part of the GOP in group is some real magical thinking.

Especially considering the Washington Times is owned by the Unification Church, which is a Korean religion with a Korean founder who is worshipped as a god.

Republicans are happy to bow and scrape for the Moonies when they need their support, but there's no chance they're giving non-white people a seat at the table as soon as they have the ability to kick them out.

[–] jawa21@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I had no idea that the Moonies owned this paper. That should completely deligitimize it to just about everyone.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

It should, but since they have spent decades ingratiating themselves with Republican politicians, which includes giving them huge amounts of cash, so higher-up Republicans tolerate them, and even pretend to venerate them. For now.

And I doubt the base even knows what the Unification Church is, much less that they own the Washington Times. Similarly, the Falun Gong cult owns the Epoch Times, another so-called news outlet that Republicans love. But I'm guessing most of them are completely unaware that it isn't white people they're getting their information from.

[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Yep, the Moonie Times.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago (3 children)

That's just going to make him more popular with his base.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It is best for us to relate to the future that we knew and that we tried to stop it.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I don’t think any of this will work, but I would lean into comparing him to Chavez, a left wing demagogue and authoritarian. Their policies and tactics are shockingly similar in a lot of places, and the right really loves comparing DNC politicians to Chavez.

[–] badaboomxx@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At this point I hate that gis maga fanbase are full of idiots. Basically he could tell them face to face that they are stupid for easily being scammed by him and his fsmily, and the idiots will.claim "he didn't mean it"

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

I feel like he's already done this.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Except Trump supporters love dictators.

[–] AlfredEinstein@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They love dick.

And they love 'taters.

[–] Neil@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

I came here for DICK, but stayed for the 'taters.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

So I guess Smeagol is a Democrat or an independent

[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

The 40% who will continue voting for him are so brutally stupid and warped that none of this sort of message will make a damn bit of difference to them.

Remember that neurologically, conservatives are primed for fear and anger so they lap up the negative shit that Trump and people like him feed them. They think “Mmm… yeah Hitler was an angry guy wasn’t he? I like being angry too. Yay! Let’s party!”

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The last of the lead addled generation.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

and the other 60% who continue to support him LIKE that he is like dictators. I don't think American conservatives or liberals are prepared to actually fight for democracy. They've been dragging their feet and giving him special treatment, when THE ENTIRE PREMISE of the country is we're all supposed to be equal. They cannot even understand the entire point of Democracy is to NOT let someone push their singular will. A wannabe dictator trying to rise should be the fucking easiest piece of shit to throw in jail, yet here we are...

[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 4 points 8 months ago

Democrats (a a whole) want to enforce the rules and laws by respecting them and using them in a manner befitting the good faith actions they expect the populace to exhibit.

The GOP has been on a slow drift since the 1950’s towards not acting in good faith and doing whatever they can to bend or outright break rules that don’t suit them. This decline in behaviour accelerated with GWB and the Florida ballots, and then went off the fucking cliff when (GASP!!!) a black man ((sotto voce) Dear Lord, help us) took office.

Trump’s rise (was it the Simpsons fault for being an oracle, thus causing it?) is merely the symptom of this insanity. In one sense we are all (the world) lucky that the person channelling that lightning is so incompetent as a human. We may yet find a temporary reprieve in the race to the destruction of the American Experiment if he can be brought to heel under law.

But also to your point, yes it’s likely that the Dems need to ‘grow a set’ to get stuff done as well as to capture the imagination of those who feel they need a ‘strong leader’.

[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Interesting they would use the term "wake up" being GOP and all. I bet they didn't even realize.

[–] Corgisocks@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

Trump's base used to use wake up all the time, I remember seeing it a lot in 2016 online by Trump supporters. Then at some point woke got adopted as anti-democrat and shortly after wake up was dropped from their vocabulary.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 months ago

That’s like porn to his voters.

[–] momtheregoesthatman@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

If we've learned anything, it's that Drump supporters won't learn anything. This group is just a duffle bag of dick cheese. They'll embrace and baselessly defend him no matter where we/he/the media goes. RIP USA.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

They forgot, "...though dumber and less competent."

[–] Crewman@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Give the episode, 'The Non-Nazi Bastards That Helped Hitler' by Behind The Bastards a listen. It's scary how familiar this all is.