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Lyft and Uber threatened to stop doing business in Minneapolis after the city council adopted a new rule Thursday that would set a minimum wage for rideshare drivers.

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[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 117 points 1 year ago

Great, just get the heck out of here with your gig market profiteering.

[–] Parmesan5581@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 1 year ago

Further proof that if they could pay you less (or nothing), they happily would.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no. People might have to use regular taxis.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or maybe just take a walk, use public transit, ride a bike, or use some other sort of !micromobility!

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Public transport in Minneapolis/St. Paul sucks

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Coincidence?

[–] Alto@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The one in your heart?

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !micromobility@lemmy.world

[–] Aesculapius@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good! Providing a cheap service at the cost of the staff doing the work is not acceptable.

This is all just grandstanding anyway. They may leave, but likely they will just increase their rates.

[–] TheBest@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly. I envision them threatening to leave, but ultimately not taking the revue hit by raising prices for the end users.

I don't agree with profits over everything. I anticipate the public narrative blaming the drivers or politicians for them exiting the market, but in my opinion its their own corporate greed thats pushing them out. This is unfair and people shouldn't be vilified for standing up for workers rights.

It's like when Amazon threatened to leave NY when AOC was campaigning for higher minimum wage over there or whatever it was. I forget the exact details, but the point is that it ended up being a bluff and of course they stayed.

[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@sopuli.xyz 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GTFO of Minneapolis if you can't pay your employees you don't deserve to do business here

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Someone else will backfill the need.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

“Allow us to exploit the labor or we will leave the market”

Same excuse since the dawn of slavery

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok bye! Nobody needs overpriced services that underpay all employees.

[–] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I don't keep up with Uber news, but do they still not consider their drivers to be actual employees, but rather 1099 workers? Either way that company can go to hell.

Lyft too if they have the same attitude.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good. If business plan relies on exploiting workers, then it's a garbage business plan & deserves to fail.

[–] reallynotnick@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Call their bluff, they won't leave.

[–] Kahlenar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They literally won't. They'll set their rates at "profitable" numbers and leave their computers on, just like everywhere else.

But if the apparatus of the people (government) backs down then it'll be another total failure of government.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay bye bye. It’s not like they suddenly take all the drivers and their cars with them. Are they forgetting what business they are in? All they do is match drivers with passengers. Some other scrappy startup can easily fill that gap when they leave. Uber became only big because of first mover advantage and cut throat capitalism. Their tech is not groundbreaking.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hell, Uber isn't even the only business in the "ride share" category at the moment.

Most cities have at least one other similar business already.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Like Lyft? The other rideshare app in the article?

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

If every business in Ohio left that cried about some laws there wouldn't be any left

They never pass up profit, even if it's less

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago

don't threaten me with a good time

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Conveniently, biking will be a good alternative again once the bike lane isn't full of illegally parked rideshare cars.

(Not from MN but Ubers are a plague for safe city biking where I am)

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering they are not really any cheaper than taxis, no biggie.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They're much nicer, though. That's why they've been successful.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

When scummy companies like that are really pissed off about a new policy, that policy is exactly the right thing to do.

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Good fucking riddance.

[–] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And then was born a 3rd competitor.

[–] Countmacula@artemis.camp 3 points 1 year ago

Ha anything to avoid responsibility

[–] Kuro@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Oh no, they'll have to pay their employees half the cost of living...

... Anyways

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Oh no...anyway

[–] tron@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I think this should pass, don't hold your breath. Mayor Frey will probably veto it. He's a very moderate, business friendly Democrat and our governor also vetoed a similar bill from the state legislature earlier this year. Right or wrong, they are concerned that any disruption of Uber/Lyft services would be extremely detrimental to people who depend on them. Public transportation in MN is really bad and this is one of the major ways people get around.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

Right or wrong, they are concerned that any disruption of Uber/Lyft services would be extremely detrimental to people who depend on them. Public transportation in MN is really bad and this is one of the major ways people get around.

Having come from Iowa, the twin cities public transit is more than adequate for most commuters, and I strongly disagree with it being "really bad". I'm honestly aghast at the suggestion that people might use Uber of Lyft with enough regularity to impact day-to-day commuting. My wife elects to use the public buses into downtown from the suburbs out of convenience, even though her work provides downtown parking if she wanted it. Not saying it'll have NO impact, but frankly I don't think it'll have much of one.

[–] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
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