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[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 95 points 5 months ago (51 children)

Trump. You are supporting Trump. Trump will ban Muslims again and not just the foreign ones.

Biden is not the one murdering Palestinians.

Bebe is.

Bebe and Trump are buddies. Bebe spoke directly to Congress to humiliate Obama to help Trump get elected. He chose sides and interfered in the US election. Because Bebe is a racist genocidal murderer.

Sometimes Presidents have to do difficult diplomacy. And it sucks.

But Trump is coming for all Muslims. Seriously. We cannot have Trump again.

An American election is a zero sum game. You are forced to pick the least crappy option.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 52 points 5 months ago (16 children)

The election is important BUT the president isn't and shouldn't be above criticism. He is not doing the killing but he's keeping the killers well stocked with weapons and ammunition, doing PR for them and undermining any attempt to stop the killing.

If this isn't something he should be criticised for I don't know what is

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People who support genocide for its own sake will come up with any excuse to keep their indefensible positions from scrutiny.

[–] Soulg@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

People too stupid to understand how politics work would rather just insult everyone who doesn't hold the exact same narrow ignorant view that allows them to virtue signal.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They’re a huge difference between criticizing, and refusing to vote for him over a single issue. Criticize him all you wish, he’s certainly earned it, but crossing one’s arms and staying home instead of voting as a result of said criticism is fucking stupid.

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[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Not meeting with Biden =/= Voting for Trump

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

But let's not pretend this coverage doesn't have an impact on certain voters who throw their hands up and go, "ah hell they're all the same! I'm not voting!"

Right-wing operatives are already obviously seizing on this wedge-driving opportunity.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago

They whine about being called shrubs while they amplify the message Russia bots are also posting.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

Just equals supporting his bid for power. And in turn supporting lil' dic. pootie and fash baby bibi as they are who gain should you succeed in bringing Biden down.

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[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The US is funding and providing the weapons to kill Palestinians, resources Biden can withhold if he chooses to. Biden may not be pulling the trigger any more than Netanyahu is, but he is responsible for their deaths, and should be held accountable

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

Perfect reasoning!

However the problem with it is that the tankies here don’t care. It’s cool now for them to hate on Biden and be outraged about things happening in a country they couldn’t have point to on a map six months ago. Too many people have tried reasoning with them and explaining the fist past the post way things work-

They’re just too stubborn.

Religious people? Being blatantly stupid? You don't fucking say!

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 35 points 5 months ago (34 children)

1 in 200 Gazans were killed, for people who has family in that area of the world, they were someone's old neighbour, friend or relative.

I get that not voting for Biden effectively helps the Republicans, but those groups won't agree to be political pawns, not at least without actions supporting an immediate ceasefire first.

[–] ira@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago

It's closer to 1 in every 80 who have been killed now (26,083 out of apx 2.1 million).

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

1 in 200 Gazans were killed

How'd you get that? I come up with 1 in 80 using 25,000 dead and population of 2,000,000.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

Abssolutely right... so much has happened since I got those numbers in November... :(

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[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You'll surely get a better deal under trump

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