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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 138 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Ironically, it's the innocent-looking white boxes that are hellspawn devices of pure evil that will wiretap your house, force you into a subscription service and have a 2-year planned obsolescence timebomb in it.

Meanwhile anything that resembles an arachnid will let you do whatever you want, support every imaginable open standard, and work with community firmware that will still be supported a decade later.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So Jehovah's witnesses vs Satanic Temple?

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Jehovah's witnesses have lasted more then 2 years sadly

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If they also crawled around my living room floor I would probably buy two and make them fight each other over AP privileges. May the strongest signal win.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 9 points 9 months ago
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[–] Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world 137 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Hail Sata full of cables. hollow be thy port.

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 66 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thy LAN has run, it will be fun, on the couch as it is up stairs.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 50 points 9 months ago

Give us this day, our UDP, and forgive us our packet loss, as we forgive those who drop packets meant for us.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

hollow be thy port

Cable's unplugged bro

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[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 111 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I like the UFO and Coke can designs personally.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 64 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This post brought to you by the Unifi crew

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The AP shaped like a tallboy is a new one for me, actually

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Average Ubiquiti enjoyer:

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Great if you happen to be or know an electrician, drywall repair expert, and painter. For most of us this isn't very practical though. I do wish that ceiling router ports were standard on new builds at least and if you didn't want to use them you could plug in smoke alarms instead.

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There's nothing stopping you from just plopping these on a table somewhere.

The UFO has a pop-out notch on the rim so it can sit flat on a table or wall with a cable running out the side, and the can comes with multiple bottom attachments you can swap out depending on if you want it to rest on a table, be screwed into the side of something, or be mounted on top of a threaded bolt.

I just chose the images that showed the shapes off. It's not the only way they can be used.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

Huh? For most homes this is like, 1 tub of spackle, a sample of paint and a paper towel

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[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 71 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (18 children)

Neither.

19" rack mount router and switch supplying PoE to a proper wall mount access point that allows for vlan tagging per ssid.

I'm so done with consumer grade crap. After my WRT54G had to be replaced, nothing quite measured up unless I went for industrial grade hardware.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Consumer grade has taken a nosedive but it's head and shoulders over what the ISPs give out now.

I had to install a new gateway for my mom the other day, the one supplied by Spectrum. I haven't looked at or touched one of these things in years, I had no idea what they were like now.

I opened the box, set it up, plugged it in, saw that the only information the display gives customers now are the words "Power" and "Online", unplugged it, put it back in the box, and told Mom "I love you too much to let this in your home. I'll buy you a modem."

I didn't even get to the part where apparently you have to use an app to change the password, and the admin panel is not truly accessible anymore.

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I found out that ISP provided crap can do one thing OK. I have an ISP provided cable modem / router / wifi doing only the cable modem part and bridging the connection to a MikroTik router. Then I have another ISP provided router / wifi only doing the wifi part, again bridged to the MikroTik.

Both the ISP provided boxes were crashing pretty consistently when they were doing routing, firewall, wifi etc. (torrenting with a VPN while watching a 4K stream over wifi would just melt the box) but when they're only doing one thing they've been working fine.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Or go with Unifi. I’d label them “prosumer” gear.

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[–] PsychicPsquirrel@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Or you could choose one with wings.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/461b576f-37a8-4f7f-a040-29f6ed891414.jpeg

This one does have beam forming antennas. I don’t know if that feature helped, but this router works in my long narrow apartment in a congested area where other routers failed.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 55 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Isn't that the Star Wars Imperial shuttle after it's landed?

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[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] beefcat@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll take the ceiling mounted UFO instead.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

That's technically "rounded soft box" It's completely round.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 55 points 9 months ago (6 children)

That rounded white box is a POS At&T locked down fiber modem/router which they patch biweekly at 3am without your control because they don't want people hacking their devices to change the DNS server or anything useful.

It wouldn't be a problem if AT&T let you use your own fiber ONT but they don't which is technically illegal but no one has sued them yet because they are a billion dollar company.

Thankfully the workaround is to grab a supported ONT, upgrade to 2.5g or higher fiber speeds so they are forced to use XGS-PON, then swap in your ONT with some cloned IDs and downgrade back to whatever plan you want. This all allegedly works because businesses that use AT&T as their ISP also don't want to pay money for a proprietary piece of junk, and they have enough power to throw around to demand AT&T allow them to use their own fiber hardware.

[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I love having Google Fiber, they gave me a modem with one open RJ-45 port and said "have fun with the other side of this network".

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[–] nevalem@programming.dev 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There are total bypass options now to completely remove their hardware from your network using an ONT that lets you clone the att device serial number. Just a heads up.

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago (8 children)

"Does either model spy on me?"

"Yes."

"Which one?"

"Yes."

[–] mrmanager 9 points 9 months ago

Depends on your firmware. You can install FreshTomato firmware on these things and enjoy a much better experience with many more features and higher stability.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Like early wifi routers weren't also stupid looking? I don't think I have ever had one that fit properly anywhere because of their odd shapes and/or antennae, and I've had wifi since 98 or 99.

As an aside: While I was working for a WISP, I came into possession of some older Ubiquity antennas and I used a couple to blast my home network's wifi across my small town so I could use wifi on my phone pretty much anywhere within 3 miles of my house. Shit was rad as fuck.

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[–] esc27@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Can I get the one on the right with four antenna and a black pyramid in the middle? “Ancient Spirits of Ethernet, transform this weak signal… to Wi-Fi, the Ever-Streaming!”

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Your description makes me want to have a Stargate shaped one, where the status lights are the dialing symbols around the ring.

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[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] thorcik@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

The Elders of the Internet demand.... a shrubbery!

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

I'll take one satanic altar please

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Serious question: Do the antennas actually make a difference?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Short answer no.

Long answer: Mimo designs benefit from different array configurations with known and well placed antenna spacing. So once you hit "good enough" there isn't much of a benefit... But the loosy Goosy any direction antennas above the Xtreme routers... No, not at all

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[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Best guess: each antenna is optimized for a different carrier frequency and splitting traffic between antennae allows the designer to use multiple, lower-cost parts on each data stream rather than a single, higher-cost part that can handle one antenna dealing with all the traffic.

Multiple antennae carrying the same frequency can make a difference, but consumer electronics where the end user has control over the angle of the Antennas likely isn't precise enough to make use of the potential benefits.

If the antennae were very precisely positioned and had very precise phase offset, the full array could be used to have very tight control over polarization...which really doesn't matter in a home wifi environment.

OR! It's just for looks.

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Depends if they can be mapped to different channels/frequencies, then it’s possible you get more throughput assuming there isn’t some bottleneck elsewhere. afaik more antennae for the same connection, at essentially the same location, doesn’t make a difference

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[–] benvars@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 11 points 9 months ago

Eva from wall-e vs the galactic empire

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The cybernetic gods require BLOOD, before your wifi works.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I'm not the most knowledgeable about networking hardware.

At what point are those antennas just excessive?

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[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My cat will sit on either of them.

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[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

My Soft Round Box got damaged so I took the case off and now it's a Cyborg.

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