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Am man, can confirm.
Tried to be man, can confirm. (Enby raised in conservative family).
Are you me?
We are Borg.
We really is.
Damm these headaches won't stop Garry!
For serious, the "masculine" culture is pure trash. Jocks and bullies in school, frat houses in college, dumb fans getting in fights as adults... Machismo is mostly toxic.
Far too many peoples' idea of "manly" is just, "asshole pushing their opinion on others". To clarify, simply expressing an opinion is not pushing it. There are also plenty of healthy "manly" qualities, but you never hear good guys running around gloating about how they don't beat their wife.
Culture isn't defined by the masses, but the mouthy.
I agree for the most part, but the frat houses and sororities are basically equivalent.
Masculine Culture is just an extension of archaic patriarchy, a culture of dominance where you're evaluated based on the number of people you can force into submission.
Yea. I'd say that's just an extension of how toxic masculinity reinforces jouvenile behavior. It shows up in sororities too because that is still an environment aimed at reinforcing the jouvenile's concept of "freedom".
It's a good indicator of why machismo-like thinking is so troublesome and pervasive, especially for men: It's simply someone trying to hold on to a child's understanding of the world... and males, especially those blinded by rage or hornyness, are notorious for childish thought.
Honestly, as a guy, I'm more and more starting to feel the same. There's so much dumb or hurtful shit happening under the premise of "boys being boys". It's making me hate basically everything about men and being male. Luckily there are plenty of us who are chill, so I look for those. But seeing some men being impulsive, aggressive, dominant, offensive assholes is definitely becoming more and more frustrating. It's painful to look back how much of this behaviour was just programmed into our brains as normal.
The problem isn't all men, but too many men. Whenever I feel misandry bubbling up because of "man did common bad thing again", I think of all my male friends. I love them too much to feel any hate. They are good people. Same goes for most men at my gym. They encourage rather than put down.
Had a guy argue with me for longer than I should have engaged that the problem was toxic feminism and that womenβs standards are causing this. That women are raising their sons wrong.
Like, my guy, who is imposing this standard of machismo on men but other men? Whoβs calling guys pussies for ordering βgirlyβ drinks at the pub? Iβve never seen a woman do that. Whoβs bullying guys in locker rooms for not being manly enough? Women arenβt even in there.
Your problem isnβt feminism, itβs toxic masculinity, enforced by other men. But go ahead and blame women for your problems. Weβre used to it by now.
As a guy, yeah guys might say those things, I was definitely worried that women were thinking those things.
Now that I am older, I give much less of a fuck. And I feel healthier for it.
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I mean, yeah. Toxic masculinity doesn't come from women, it comes from the patriarchy. It's all fucking bad for everyone. Worse for women, undoubtedly, but it's really fucking bad for most men too.
The fun part about being the βgoodβ husband is getting to hear all the gossip and complaints about friendsβ husbands and/or dating disasters.
Verily I say unto you, men is too headache.
Happy me be man.
it always just makes me feel kind of sad and awkward
like sometimes my wife will get off the phone after having some long and serious seeming conversation with a friend of hers and thank me like it's some big accomplishment for basic things like doing the dishes and spending time with our kids.
The bar is low guys we got to step this shit up.
Why? If other men are idiots, life is much easier for us.
Not really. If the average "date a man" experience sucks, a lot of heterosexual women aren't going to actively seek a guy to date, which makes dating not easy.
I guess I don't understand that point of view, not only doesn't that make life easier for us but it also makes it actively worse for them and for the relationships they're involved in if they are not engaging as a real partner.
why would I wish that on someone else?
Not in a relationship, but I'm a trans man, so I get to hear all the tea from my sister and her college friends.
Can confirm, men sounds too headache!
Men is too headache.
Too headache indeed
My sister had a friend who lived in a lesbian community. Oh my God the drama. I heard about it third hand and it was wild the number of crazy public screaming matches that happened and people who couldn't ever be in the same room as other people etc.
"Men is too headache"?
Try putting a bunch of women together and see what happens.
I think it's probably fair to say people is too headache lol
I'd argue we should say "some people are headache".
There has been a fair bit of reporting in recent years about the divorce rate of lesbian couples being higher than that of gay men as well, FYI.
Holdup. They lived in a lesbian community?
Can you unpack that? Was it like a suburb which everyone knew as lesbian central? Or was it a commune on someone's property?
It was actually a small town which was known for its lesbian community. ie. Just a place with a larger than normal number of lesbian living there. The town was known for being lesbian aware and lesbian friendly in general - which isn't something you can say of everywhere.
Agreed and I am a guy
How are you doing? Still got a headache?
Every time look in the mirror
I totally read the last part in a Slavic accent and it just makes it funny to me for some reason
I call it babka's english
middle aged woman with very little english really calling us out like this
I absolutely am too headache. I can't even stand being me! God forbid someone else had to suffer my existence lol
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Awesome!
Woman is two headache, one above and one below
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