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[–] lasagna@programming.dev 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Add this to your profile:

alias mkfol=mkdir

Have a fun life buddy.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

They're folders when it's a GUI and directories when it's a shell. It's been that way since long before Linux existed.

[–] unagi@feddit.nl 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yadda yadda alpine Linux yadda yadda

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

This but Linux.

[–] nogrub@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

yadda yadda nooo distro is better bla bla bla yadda

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This smells of copy/pasta BUT if GNU is the OS and Linux is the kernel, are all the so-called Linux distributions in fact not distributions of GNU/Linux but distributions of just GNU? Since they are changing the OS and not the kernel? Unless they are leaving GNU as is and changing the kernel, in which case it actually is a distribution of Linux.

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Distributions often ship their own compiled versions of the kernel, with some options changed, but it's still Linux. Same with GNU tools. But the main difference between distros isn't their flavor of GNU tools or what kernel they ship, the difference between distros is actually all the stuff that gets layered on top like the package manager.

[–] tool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It has become copypasta, but it is pretty much a direct quote of something Stallman said.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You fucking freax

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet every Linux DE uses folder icons to represent "directories".

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I find it ironic that windows uses dir - ie directory - to list what's there, but Linux only uses ls to list whatever the fuck

[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Dos called it directories, and windows ran on top of dos. And windows users say both.

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[–] Gingernate@programming.dev 40 points 1 year ago

Folder? I hardly know her!

[–] IverCoder@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMHO "folder" just sounds a lot more cozier than "directory".

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[–] AKADAP@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even though the gui file manager shows all directories as an image of a manila folder...

[–] smackjack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And they give you the option to create a new folder, not a directory.

[–] egeres@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The fact that this post got so many upvotes in c/lemmyshitpost says a lot about this community 👀

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the 4 windows users atm

- just nod and smile, boys

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Just lemmy in general.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, am I the only one who has intentionally started callling them folders on Linux as well? The problem is that the world has gotten more complex over the years and “directory” no longer has a unique meaning. In fact Windows users especially may think of folders as that UI thing, and directories as the thing that has all the user accounts (and of course accounts may no longer uniquely mean users so you need to be more explicit there as well).

Most of my career, “directories” was the proper term. However After more miscommunications in the last decade or so, I changed my phrasing to account for human error.

And don’t get me started on tools like GitLab, where folders are called “groups”, or another that calls them “portfolios”

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have never in my (nearly) 20 years of being a software developer and general tech geek and (nearly) 10 years of exclusive linux desktop use, ever distinguished between the terms "folder" and "directory", nor encountered anyone who did either.

OP is just being weird.

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

It's just a joke

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The folders in Windows are not much of a folder anyway

[–] whodatdair@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes they do! My laptop folds for example and it has windows on it!

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But windows are glass, and glass don't fold. Wait do you have one of those fancy foldable laptops? Lucky

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[–] gammasfor@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the command prompt uses the directory terminology anyway with the dir command.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Actually in windows, "dir" os short for "direct me to a list of this folders contents please, mr Gates"

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mifan@feddit.dk 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FOLD THE DIR!!!

FOLD THE DIR!

Fold the dir!

Fold dir…

Foldr…

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

... and then you get shredded to bits by a horde of Linux users.

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago
alias cf=cd
[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linux group after rightfully stating their distro choice factually sucks: RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

"It sucks" is an opinionated statement, not a fact, and thus can't be rightful.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

what if it's embedded linux in a vaccum cleaner?

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago

Then any not embedded distro is a bad choice.

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[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Interesting

From how I have experienced it, folder is macOS-speech and directory is Windows-speech.

[–] midas10@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago

I guess if you have knowledge of the Windows terminal and tech in general but the average Windows user definitellyyyy calls it a folder

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[–] realitista@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Starting with Apple II, folder never caught on with me anyway. Everything has always been a directory.

[–] tasty_brews@lolimbeer.com 16 points 1 year ago

I'm lazy and saying "folder" is fewer syllables than saying "directory".

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yah, these kids and their new-fangled "Graphical User Interfaces" have to keep coming up with new words for the same old stuff all the time.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

When you mention you used a GUI:

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use them interchangeably

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[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's genius!

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