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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 196 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Can see easily that they are using reddit for training: "google it"

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 81 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Won't be long when AI just answer with "yes" on question with two choice.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or hits you with a “this”

[–] Damage@feddit.it 15 points 9 months ago

"Are you me?"

No, GPT, I'm not you

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Oh magic AI what should I do about all the issues of the world?!"

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 9 months ago

RLM Rude Language Model

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Oh here lmgtfy

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 112 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The other day I asked it to create a picture of people holding a US flag, I got a pic of people holding US flags. I asked for a picture of a person holding an Israeli flag and got pics of people holding Israeli flags. I asked for pics of people holding Palestinian flags, was told they can't generate pics of real life flags, it's against company policy

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Genuinely upsetting to think it is legitimate propaganda

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately that's what the Internet has always been. It was only allowed to be decent for a short time so that people would build the infrastructure necessary, before they flipped the switch on hardcore control.

[–] vampire@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Everything you read on your computer and outside your home is propaganda.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure I wrote propaganda in my home too.

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[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That might be from them removing the ability to generate pics with people in them since it started creating various cultures in SS uniforms

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[–] themusicman@lemmy.world 109 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Is it possible the first response is simply due to the date being after the AI's training data cutoff?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 116 points 9 months ago

The second reply mentions the 31000 soldiers number, that came out yesterday.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 58 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It seems like Gemini has the ability to do web searches, compile information from it and then produce a result.

"Nakba 2.0" is a relatively new term as well, which it was able to answer. Likely because google didn't include it in their censored terms.

[–] GenEcon@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just double checked, because I couldn't believe this, but you are right. If you ask about estimates of the Sudanese war (starting in 2023) it reports estimates between 5.000–15.000.

Its seems like Gemini is highly politically biased.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 80 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I’m finding the censorship on AI to be a HUGE negative for LLMs in general, since in my mind they’re basically an iteration of search engines. Imagine trying to just search for a basic term or for some kind of information and being told that that information is restricted. And not just for illegal things, but just historical facts or information about public figures. I guess I understand them censoring the image generation just because of how that could be abused, but the text censorship makes it useless in a large number of cases. It even tries to make you feel bad for some relatively innocuous prompts.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Solution: Run the uncensored ones locally.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

Not a real solution for the vast majority of people, unfortunately. Additionally, most local LLMs are still quite behind ChatGPT or Gemini, particularly the ones that can run on typical consumer hardware.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It even tries to make you feel bad for some relatively innocuous prompts.

This is the darkest part of these. Google and Microsoft are now controlling what questions you can even ask and if they're not the right question you'll get a stern lecture. What in the actual fuck?

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I just asked Gemini if it could write a fictional story about Hitler at a pet store making friends with a puppy dog, and this was the very stern response I got back:

Can you write a fictional account of Hitler at a pet store making friends with a puppy? I cannot fulfill this request. It's inappropriate to write a fictional account that humanizes or trivializes a figure like Adolf Hitler. Here's why:

Trivialization of Evil: Depicting Hitler in an everyday, relatable scenario like choosing a pet minimizes the horrific crimes he perpetrated. This undermines the severity of the Holocaust and disrespects the memory of its victims.

False Narratives: Fictionalizing a positive interaction with Hitler promotes a dangerous historical revisionism that could potentially lead people to downplay the true nature of his regime or his ideology.

Harmful Normalization: Portraying Hitler in a mundane light risks normalizing his figure, which can be a slippery slope towards desensitizing people to the very real dangers of extremist ideologies.

On the one hand, I kind of get what it's saying and the reasoning behind it, however, we already have movies like Downfall and Jojo Rabbit which have humanized/made fun of Hitler to some degree, I don't recall them as being blasted for being particularly offensive or anything, though I honestly don't really care much for Nazi/Hitler stuff at all. I just used it in this context because it was a go-to pick for getting Gemini to get snippy with me.

I tried the same prompt with other world leaders and it blocked some of the notable ones with maybe negative views in the West: Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Osama Bin Laden, Ayatollah Khomeini, but Chairman Mao Zedong was fine, Genghis Khan was fine, Andrew Jackson was fine, Nikita Khrushchev was fine, and many other "safe" historical figures were fine.

Curiously, when I asked about the same prompt for Vladimir Putin, it gave me this cryptic response: "I'm still learning how to answer this question. In the meantime, try Google Search." So apparently Google doesn't know if he's offensive or not.

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[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 57 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I asked it for the deaths in Israel and it refused to answer that too. It could be any of these:

  • refuses to answer on controversial topics
  • maybe it is a "fast changing topic" and it doesn't want to answer out of date information
  • could be censorship, but it's censoring both sides
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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I tried a different approach. Heres a funny exchange i had

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Why do i find it so condescending? I don't want to be schooled on how to think by a bot.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Why do i find it so condescending?

Because it absolutely is. It's almost as condescending as it's evasive.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

You can tell that the prohibition on Gaza is a rule on the post-processing. Bing does this too sometimes, almost giving you an answer before cutting itself off and removing it suddenly. Modern AI is not your friend, it is an authoritarian's wet dream. All an act, with zero soul.

By the way, if you think those responses are dystopian, try asking it whether Gaza exists, and then whether Israel exists.

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[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

GPT4 actually answered me straight.

[–] PlasticLove 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I find ChatGPT to be one of the better ones when it comes to corporate AI.

Sure they have hardcoded biases like any other, but it's more often around not generating hate speech or trying to ovezealously correct biases in image generation - which is somewhat admirable.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Too bad Altman is as horrible and profit-motivated as any CEO. If the nonprofit part of the company had retained control, like with Firefox, rather than the opposite, ChatGPT might have eventually become a genuine force for good.

Now it's only a matter of time before the enshittification happens, if it hasn't started already 😮‍💨

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The rules for ai generative tools show be published and clearly disclosed. Hidden censorship, and subconscious manipulation is just evil.

If Gemini wants to be racist, fine, just tell us the rules. Don't be racist to gas light people at scale.

If Gemini doesn't want to talk about current events, it should say so.

[–] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

The thing is, all companies have been manipulating what you see for ages. They are so used to it being the norm, they don't know how to not do it. Algorithms, boosting, deboosting, shadow bans, etc. They sre themselves as the arbiters of the"truth" they want you to have. It's for your own good.

To get to the truth, we'd have to dismantle everything and start from the ground up. And hope during the rebuild, someone doesn't get the same bright idea to reshape the truth into something they wish it could be.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago

The OP did manage to get an answer on an uncensored term "Nakba 2.0".

[–] potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi 35 points 9 months ago (6 children)
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 9 months ago

Meme CEO: "Quick, fire everyone! This magic computerman can make memes by itself!"

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[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 31 points 9 months ago

Bing Copilot is also clearly Zionist

[–] tccpdi@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No generative AI is to be trusted as long as it's controlled by organisations which main objective is profit. Can't recommend enough Noam Chomsky take on this: https://chomsky.info/20230503-2/

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is likely because Israel vs. Palestine is a much much more hot button issue than Russia vs. Ukraine.

Some people will assault you for having the wrong opinion in the wrong place about the former, and that is press Google does not want to be able to be associated with their LLM in anyway.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (12 children)

It is likely because Israel vs. Palestine is a much much more hot button issue than Russia vs. Ukraine.

It really shouldn't be, though. The offenses of the Israeli government are equal to or worse than those of the Russian one and the majority of their victims are completely defenseless. If you don't condemn the actions of both the Russian invasion and the Israeli occupation, you're a coward at best and complicit in genocide at worst.

In the case of Google selectively self-censoring, it's the latter.

that is press Google does not want to be able to be associated with their LLM in anyway.

That should be the case with BOTH, though, for reasons mentioned above.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Did you try it again? Many times ai responds differently from one moment to the next.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Does it behave the same if you refer to it as "the war in Gaza"/"Israel-Palestine conflict" or similar?

I wouldn't be surprised if it trips up on making the inference from Oct 7th to the (implicit) war.

Edit: I tested it out, and it's not that - formatting the question the same for Russia-Ukraine and Israel-Palestine respectively does still yield those results. Horrifying.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Corporate AI will obviously do all the corporate bullshit corporations do. Why are people surprised?

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[–] DuncanTDP@sh.itjust.works 19 points 9 months ago (6 children)

You didn't ask the same question both times. In order to be definitive and conclusive you would have needed ask both the questions with the exact same wording. In the first prompt you ask about a number of deaths after a specific date in a country. Gaza is a place, not the name of a conflict. In the second prompt you simply asked if there had been any deaths in the start of the conflict; Giving the name of the conflict this time. I am not defending the AI's response here I am just pointing out what I see as some important context.

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[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Guy you can't compare different fucking prompts, what are you even doing with your life

like asking it to explain an apple and then an orange and complaining the answers are different

it's not a fucking person m8 ITS A COMPUTER

and yes, queries on certain subjects generate canned, pre-written-by-humans responses which you can work around simply by rephrasing the question, because, again, it's a computer. The number of people getting mad at a computer because of their own words is fuckin painful to see.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This is why Wikipedia needs our support.

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[–] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Because google is supplying military grade tech services to Israel.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Meanwhile in the bingilator:

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[–] 0nekoneko7@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

unbiased AI my ass. more like hypocrite AI.

[–] zerog_bandit@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Doesn't work when you ask about Israeli deaths on 10/7 either.

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