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submitted 10 months ago by thefloweracidic@beehaw.org to c/chat@beehaw.org

A commune or a cult would be better than this circus lol

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[-] dark_stang@beehaw.org 55 points 10 months ago

If you can find one that isn't a weird sex cult, let me know.

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 58 points 10 months ago

On the other hand, if you find a werid sex cult, let me know.

[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 26 points 10 months ago

I'd settle for just a normal sex cult.

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

NEVER SETTLE

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 11 points 10 months ago
[-] cubedsteaks 7 points 10 months ago

god I was hoping it was like tourists show up and just get laid by natives but instead it's just weird cuckolding.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

tourists show up and just get laid

That would be Ibiza... but it only works during summer.

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[-] liv@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

That article kind of presents an idyllic/outdated view of the Himba people. Modern life affects them as well and a lot of young people don't want to live like that.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago

Interesting, and indeed a dilemma. I basically mentioned it because just yesterday I saw a guy talking about "sex in the past", and he happened to mention this, apparently in an even more idealized/outdated way.

Basically he said that a bunch of them would go through a "bonding ritual" at the age of 14, and from then on live like a sort of communal marriage, where the woman would shoo out the husband because she had a date with some other guy of the group, and that they were the "happiest people in the world" and would act surprised at outsiders' focus on their sexual practices.

From the other article, it sounded more like forced marriage and women abuse... and here it sounds like most of them want to get out of there.

Interesting series of takes.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 37 points 10 months ago

Whoa whoa whoa. Let's not limit our options prematurely.

[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 12 points 10 months ago

you gotta suck a few eggs to make an omelette

[-] starbreaker@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

What if it was just a vanilla sex cult?

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[-] ErisShrugged@beehaw.org 43 points 10 months ago

Does the cult have a good plan for healthcare? If so, please send me your newsletter, manifesto, religious tract, pentabarf, whatever.

[-] Milksteaks@midwest.social 10 points 10 months ago

I'd settle for a cult with a good dentist tbh. According to US healthcare eyes and teeth are separate from the rest of your body.

[-] loops@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We call teeth "Luxury Bones" up here in Canada.

[-] Sombyr@lemmy.one 24 points 10 months ago

As somebody who was once part of a cult, it's just the same circus but worse.

[-] MrGG@lemmy.ca 19 points 10 months ago

Already planning on it here in Canada once my friends and I have the money for what we want to do.

Farming (+greenhousing) and some cottage rentals on the side.

Peace out, modern society!

[-] mayo 8 points 10 months ago

Cottage rentals for income?

Currently my plan is to get far enough into my career that I can spend half my time in city making money and half in the woods

[-] MrGG@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

Exactly, cottage rentals for income. To supplement farming and other ventures, anyway.

I'm lucky that my work is 99.9% remote, so as long as I can acquire a stable internet connect I can continue to work out there if needed. Existing entirely in the woods is incredibly appealing.

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[-] emma@beehaw.org 18 points 10 months ago

I don't come anywhere near close to meeting the requirements for intentional communities. Chronic illness is a real bastard. I don't need much and the quality of my life could so easily be improved by just a little help from others, but everyone - even intentional communities - is caught up in focusing on how much others can help them. What I can give is less tangible, and therefore dismissed.

I don't want to abandon society but I do recognise we'd all be far better off if we lived in ways which were less isolating. Every person/family for themselves harms us all.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A huge problem is that most neighborhoods and houses aren't facilitating community. You don't need a commune or a cult as OP was joking.

I live in a house where one of the apartments is used communally by all the other residents of the house and it changes so much. It doesn't have a functioning bathroom so the landlords couldn't give it up for rent. But it has a kitchen, a balcony etc.

[-] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 17 points 10 months ago

I dont know, you cant really go shopping for cults. Cults go shopping for you.

[-] jayemar@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

In soviet Russia...

[-] Tehgingey@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago

If you've ever heard of WOOFing that's a great place to start. It's a work trade program I did years ago, tons of farms around the world. You get room and board, just work the farm for a short term. I traveled across Canada doing that years ago and ended up staying on one for 2 years in the discovery islands off the coast of BC. One of the best times in my life. Now I live in downtown Toronto, wondering why I ever came back ahaha

[-] itmightbethew@beehaw.org 16 points 10 months ago

Why not a commune IN the city?

Not saying this is you, but I feel like a lotta people who wanna live in the country also want all the city amenities - internet, garbage pickup, municipal sewage, etc.

To me, the problem isn't cities, it's late stage capitalism - gentrifying neighbourhoods, driving rents beyond reach, displacing communities. Plus its zeal for car-focused infrastructure, conspicuous consumption. All that stuff.

Anyway communal life is very appealing - I long for my college days of living in a house full of peers. Even if i'm off-base with my capitalism ruins the city argument, I think we'd all do better at coping with modern life with a wider support network.

I hear they are growing more popular in the bay area? Gideon Lichfield, outgoing editor-in-chief at Wired, mentions he spends half his year living in a commune of sorts and would like to do it full time in this podcast.

https://www.wired.com/story/have-a-nice-future-podcast-19/

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[-] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 13 points 10 months ago

Very often I would like to abandon my life in reality and become a part of an ideal world which I have imagined. It is surprisingly easy to become part of a rural cult (look up "intentional communities") so it's a backup plan I have in mind if necessary, but with people we're going to be dealing with a different version of the same set of issues. We as a species are nuts.

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[-] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 12 points 10 months ago

No, but finding a job in a slightly less fucked country would be great once I have sufficient work experience.

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[-] ClarissaDarling@beehaw.org 12 points 10 months ago

It's a beautiful dream! Almost a decade ago my family and I left the city and bought land with some other folks. Now it's just us out here in the wilderness, others are welcome but most people can't leave the city.

[-] Leafeytea@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago

It can't be too "wild" out there, if you are able to pop into Beehaw...? 😂

I would love someplace totally off the grid.

[-] ClarissaDarling@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

Starlink is everywhere! There is no cell service here so we had much more limited communication prior.

[-] thefloweracidic@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

That sounds fantastic, yeah my partner and son are super city dependent they can never leave.

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[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 months ago

I’ve thought for a while that it would be cool to buy up a block in a suburb and do urban farming as a community.

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[-] Erdrick@beehaw.org 11 points 10 months ago

My dad did it back when he was a hippy.
He still talks very fondly of the time he spent out in the Arizona desert all those decades ago.

A piece of me would like to drop out of society and live in solitude.
While I lean towards being a loner, I realized that I am probably mostly a hybrid.
I enjoy some human interaction, but also love being alone to do whatever the fuck I want.
To me a commune would be too intimate and I think would end up being like a small town type of scenario which doesn’t appeal to me.

[-] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

What about a traveling circus? Bonuses: it's mobile, it's a circus by design, it's inclusive, and goofing around is just part of the culture!

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

I've always said if you don't want to work for clowns join the circus

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That's a good idea. It would be interesting to create an ideal communist utopia on a small scale so we can see how/if it actually works. Do it!

[-] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Spanish tried this in the 30's. It was a part of the Spanish civil war and is an interesting read. I'd also recommend On Anarchism by Noam Chomsky which goes more in depth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution_of_1936

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[-] outer_spec@lemmy.studio 8 points 10 months ago

I would but in a commune they would probably just force me to mine or farm all day instead of doing a job I actually want

[-] Arotrios@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

Abandon society - yes. Commune - JFC no. Vagabond gypsy caravan? Possibly, but only if there are werewolves and mysteriously sexy tarot card casters involved.

[-] ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

I do absolutely horribly in small groups of people for extended periods of time.

[-] along_the_road@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

I just want more affordable housing

[-] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

The fact the term "affordable housing" exists is the problem, all housing should be affordable, it's a necessity, not a damn profitmobile.

[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Already looking for a land that might be livable in 10/15 years

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[-] iegod@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Peace. More bandwidth for the rest of us.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

When do we get some fresh kicks and an icy drink?

[-] nicktron@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

I talk about this a lot - mostly tongue in cheek (mostly) - and my partner always calls me the Unabomber afterwards, or asks when I’m publishing my manifesto.

I’m not a people person and society seems to be getting worse, plus I love rugged living and being outdoors. I can dig it.

[-] apis@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

Not really, no. The idea of living in a small community makes me feel nauseous and panicky, and the more remote the commune the more intense the aversion.

But I wouldn't mind some sort of arrangement between some others who also like the idea of being off-grid but who loathe the idea of being in a small community, where we'd be off in the wilds with a LOT of space between us, but still come together occasionally to help each other out with various things, or be available be radio or whatever.

Similarly, the idea of being part of a nomadic group seems quite appealing to me, especially if more people join along the way and others dip in and out.

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