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For context this is an Andrew tate meatrider on twitter

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[–] Superfool@lemmy.world 80 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (49 children)

I think the problem here is making rape sound like an opportunist crime: like you left a wallet stuffed full of cash at a bar and someone took it while the owner was getting a drink.

"Well, you were dressed showing too much skin, and you didn't take your knight-in-shining-armour, so what do you expect?

If a person don't see the problem with this view, then there a significant lack of insight. But then that is probably Tates' target audience.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you wander past the danger signs, and into the crocodile pen, and get bitten by crocodiles, then its your fault.

Thankfully, human males aren't purpose-built carnivorous reptiles with a hunger for mammals, no capacity for understanding right and wrong, and a lowercase brain that hasn't evolved in 250 mn years.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 45 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I like to be free to walk where I want, and I'm a woman. You're saying (or rather, he is. I know y'all are better than this) that because a small percentage of women get raped in alleys every night, no women should be allowed to walk in alleys any night. How about we switch, and no men are allowed out at night at all? Because a small percentage of men commit rape each night, in all kinds of places.

Oh wait, a majority of rapists rape indoors, and rape the women they know well. Oh, and there's a large overlap in the Venn diagram circles of "police" and "rapists." And a larger overlap between "authorities" and "rapists who get away with it." Shit, this problem is bigger than just telling people where to walk at night....

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The problem is massive. Women get raped in parking lots. Women get raped on the subway. Women get raped by doctors. Women get raped in stairwells. Wherever women exist, we get raped.

Yeah, we all take precautions, but it's impossible to totally protect ourselves from being raped, and moreover we shouldn't need to protect ourselves. We ought to be able to live our lives openly with an expectation of safety.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 21 points 8 months ago

Men also get raped, which seems like yet more evidence that the problem just might be rapists; rather than, somehow, women not protecting themselves.

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[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 45 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

“Yes the rapist is at fault, but also women need to be blamed for having the audacity to walk alone at night. Some of us men just can’t help ourselves, and women need to change their behavior of not walking around without a male babysitter instead of men changing their behavior by not raping. She should be held accountable because of this, but not punished. “

So how exactly does the author propose they hold this accountability…? Just a little bit of rape?

Also I love how for his 2nd point he literally just says “No no no, this was taken out of context. He actually meant to say [states literally verbatim what he said]” lol

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think he meant for 2 that he made separate statements and someone somehow spliced them together with a "but" without making it sound off.

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[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 9 points 8 months ago

not walking around without a male babysitter

The 'male babysitter' is far more likely to do the raping than some hypothetical stranger. Just one of the reasons this braindead advice is so fucking irritating. And, of course, it comes from exactly those people (usually but not always men) who will be making excuses for the rapist when following their advice gets people raped.

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[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

“I’m not a rapist, but…” sounds like you are about to say an excuse as to why you are a rapist

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

this is stupid, you cant hold her accountable for a rape even if she was walking naked. It is like saying everyone involved in a car accident should be held accountable even if they did not do anything they got in a car knowing that car accidents are very common.

you can maybe try to criticise for bad decisions on practical grounds but that is a whole other separate thing. And the only thing this will lead to finally is asking someone to forgo some of their rights if they dont want to get raped. very problematic. And then again if you are not a sorry little piece of shit, you should not do that to someone who has just gone through such a traumatic experience. swallowing down your self righteousness and giving unconditional support will likely work better.

[–] kraftpudding@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I too believe in being free, which is why I don't admit to rape on social media

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

...... Or do it in the first place, right?

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Elliot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Where is that user i'm getting concerned .

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They're not responding to make the joke funnier.

...

Right?

[–] Elliot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago
[–] JSocial@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

This is a version of that Anakin/Padme meme. And I'm laughing my ass off. Thanks folks.

[–] kraftpudding@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I've certainly never raped anyone on social media.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You know what? Fuck it. I like to rape. Is that so bad? -Right wing shitheads

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