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The names of previous Lemmy versions were all very boring and repetetive. We need something much more creative. Any ideas?

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 47 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Eh, if someone on the team is feeling creative I don't mind fun version numbers but semantic versioning is quite searchable and reduces confusion.

[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

One does not exclude the other. You can have a fancy name and a semantic versioning.

[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The problem is that it is almost always just one lf them. Let's say that v0.20 is called "Fuck Spez" and v0.21 is called "YouKnowWhatFuckMuskToo".

Most people are going to refer to them by either the number or the name, almost never are both used. The biggest problem with names is that they are rarely sortable (google did it with android, for a bit but not anymore), so in the future it is hard to know which is which without resorting to looking at a list of releases.

For example, in the future when we are on v0.30 someone might say "ah, but this has been an issue since "Fuck Spez"." And then most likely you have to look it up to know what they are talking about. If we coulld force everyone to alwaya write "version "Fuck Spez" (v0.20)" then it would be great, but that never happens.

I personally prefer just semantic versioning for this reason.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

People can search the name or SemVer and get the other name. It's not hard, not time-consuming, and it's way more fun. I genuinely miss when Android had dessert-themed names because it made the updates that much more exciting

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

What if the names were picked from whatever news was prominent during the release week. During last summer we could have had something like blackout or APIcalypse.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think that's the case and why I said it's fine in my OC, but the more I think about it I'm slightly concerned it might cause some fragmentation "Does anyone know how to force a user sync in Lightfoot?" and "How can I sync users (forced) in v13.8.12?"

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it muddles with searching for answers, especially when the names are common things. Apple can get away with naming macOS on places in California, but it’s going to be tough searching β€œhaving trouble posting comments on Thor” or whatever. The naming scheme can work, but it has to be very unique

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 2 points 7 months ago

I have exactly this problem when trying to fix issues on my MacBook :(

[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Hm... Good point.

[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Based on classification? Taken from a Wikipedia article concerning lemmings.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 27 points 7 months ago

It's software versioning, not a new breakfast cereal

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

MotΓΆrhead had 23 studio albums.

[–] livus@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago

This, it means sooner or later there will be a Lemmy version called Orgasmatron.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

We've been notoriously bad about doing more frequent releases, but if we were to release every month, then naming them could get annoying really quickly.

I'd prefer to just stay with the semantic version numbering, like a lot of projects with a ton of releases do. Like look at react's releases.

The fun named versioning makes sense for operating systems, that release only like once a year, but not for apps, docker services, libraries, etc.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We only do major versions around once a year so those could still be named, while using numbers for minor versions. Lemmy is more user-facing than react, so it would make sense to have a more user-friendly versioning.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

I'd be good with that.

[–] the_rogue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So are you saying we are gonna get monthly updates πŸ‘€πŸ‘€

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[–] jxk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

I agree that there shouldn't be official names for versions.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

No we don't.

Versioning like this is good for knowing how far off you are from current.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hmm so you're looking for a naming theme like the old Android scheme of Desserts or MacOS California Parks.

List off the top of my head

  • Tree Species
  • Cities, Towns, Villages in Cuba
  • Mushroom Species
  • Names of Wildflowers

That's all I got for now.

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

My vote is for the mushroom species, I also just love eating mushrooms πŸ„πŸ€€

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Add ridiculous titles for each version. For example. Lemmy Release v0.18.1: The Revengence

I just think it would be funny to have "Are you still on Revengence? Make sure you update to Snickerdoodle" pop up from time to time.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago

Numbers. All the stupid ubuntu names are cheese.

[–] souperk@reddthat.com 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It sounds a bit too soon to use release names, especially given that Lemmy is still in alpha.

When a major release comes out, I suggest using colony names (fictional or real), like the pirate republic.

In general, I like names that highlight the decentralised aspect of the fediverse.

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I usually go with strange long animal names... like "Desert Cottontail"

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Books of the Bible, Torah and Koran

The amount of controversy it would generate would propel Lemmy into international headlines.

[–] souperk@reddthat.com 9 points 7 months ago

or chapters from "Das Capital"

[–] grant@toast.ooo 6 points 7 months ago

Having a name for a version would be nice for each major release (1.0.0 would have a name but 1.x.x wouldn’t, but 2.0.0 would, etc)

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Call the next one Final and the one after that Final.Final

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)
  • goddamn.final
  • truly.final
  • final.i.swear
  • final.ffs
  • no.more.revision
  • no.more.revision.please
  • no.more.goddamn.revision
  • no.more.fcken.revisiom
  • no.more.revision.ffs
[–] ouRKaoS 6 points 7 months ago

use.this.one.actually

[–] livus@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

I feel attacked.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I like the TeX version scheme, it starts with version 3. After that it's:
3.1
3.14
3.141
3.1415 etc. Current stable release is 3.141592653. The message is that each version is a more accurate approximation of pi. It's not growing much bigger, but better.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is fun but also incredibly awful

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 months ago

Just like TeX :)

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Name it after famous Lemmy's.

V1.0 - Killmister
V2.0 - Koopa

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago

The descriptions up until 0.18.5 seem very informative.

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Music artists? Bands? Mountain names? Types of peppers? Either one would spice things up a bit I think lol

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Larry
Roy
Wendy
Iggy
Morton
Ludwig

Maybe various rodent species?

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Call me a shit stirer but I can’t help but wonder if this violates rule 3? Which I say not to have this removed from here but because of the IMO weirdness of not wanting any lemmy-support posts here as though lemmy isn’t a growing space in need of supporting new users.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This isn't a support question, as in a trouble shooting question. This is a question to the Lemmy community about the platform itself. Its an input/feedback request, not a "how do I use Lemmy" question.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fair ... I don't really care that much TBH ... it just seemed to be blurring the lines and I've always been ambivalent about the strident anti-support stance of this community ... so I thought it'd put it out there.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

I mean, the poster is one of the two lead developers of the Lemmy platform. He might get a pass.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Instead of β€œrelease v20” how about β€œfull release v20”

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Species of apples

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 1 points 5 months ago

Just use track titles of MotΓΆrhead. Major release could have album titles.