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Regarding competing 'echo chambers', we've been inoculated to liberalism because we get exposed to it on a nonstop near-daily basis in our work/social/ whatever lives and come here to gripe about that specicifically, meanwhile these libs have literally never been exposed to opinions to their left because they're used to living in exclusively curated spaces.

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Liberal here, sick to death or how condescending the democrats have become. I had a blast watching them froth at the mouths. It was beautiful.

what's funny are the ones who think we're right-wing because they've never heard anyone criticize liberals from the left before

"I'm as left as they come, but I trust the CIA and support every US foreign policy position"

Liberals either think or want to think they have a monopoly on being "the left wing party". They also don't want to think too hard, and are at their heart capitalist, which means they prefer a prescribed identity that requires no effort on their part.

One of the more interesting takes I've ever heard on Trillbillies podcast was that the Democratic Party is mostly a lifestyle brand at this point. One that's designed to make the member look good, virtuous and just, but not requiring any participation. They have just enough stolen accolades that were really hard fought movements from grassroots organizing to point at so they can say "we"re the good guys".

Well thought out and well read political leftists pose a threat to their cultural hegemony and therefore undermine their manufactured righteousness. If enough people got wind that the DNC and their voters are basically a paper tiger in the face of a fascist takeover, they will lose their cushy, do nothing lifestyles. They will either have to help us, or join the fash.

The real sad part is that it's mostly done for treats, and even those will get taken away as soon as the austerity a lot of us are already facing really kicks in.

Can't wait to be blamed for "taking 's grill and steaks".

A lot of them encountered the very thing they've been conditioned to feel disgust towards, and for a lot of them maybe for the very first time in their lives in a conversational capacity. These are people who are inundated on a near-daily basis with propaganda designed to twist the socialist narrative into one of death and destruction that leads to the inevitable collapse of all civilizations unfortunate enough to let it take root.

I don't think that the average liberal is totally apathetic towards everyone but themselves (I think a lot of us have probably identified as such before, be it as a child or long into adulthood,) but their ideas on human rights, social justice, and broader politics are incredibly underdeveloped. When you don't have a considerable wealth of knowledge or experience to draw on, you're a reactionary subject to the pull of your own gut feelings and the preconceived notions instilled in you by your peers.

What I'm getting at is that I think it's important to realize that a lot of the libs pissing their pants at the sight of evil tankies have absolutely no idea what a tankie is or does, and everything they do know is buried under 10 layers of disinformation. This doesn't absolve them of their crimes of grand dumbassery, but I think it's worth considering that a lot of these people would probably agree with much of what we had to say were we to peel back the layers of their programming. Alas, that isn't often realistic and frankly isn't solely* our responsibility.

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I'll have to admit I was also knocked down by seeing liberal takes that are so outside of my frame of reference I didn't know anyone thought that way.

For example, there was this one user who had decided to die on the hill of getting rid of welfare because they felt people on it were just lazy.

Our existence invalidates their entire worldview. Most online libs sense of self is that they are the good, smart people, and the only ones who could ever be opposed to them are the bad, dumb republicans (who for some reason are not irredeemable and we need a strong republican party for some reason