Title Edit: 737 not a 787
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Another Boeing 787 makes an emergency landing in Denver, Colorado after having the engine fall apart
Direct link to video: https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1777045344699723776/vid/avc1/720x720/9e4r54op7DJrY8Q6.mp4
Source: https://twitter.com/HotSpotHotSpot/status/1777045587344429221
Boeing has successfully made me mildly anxious about flight for the first time in my life and it only took a couple of months after a lifetime of thinking of it as incredibly safe. Capitalism is awesome.
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I asked for a couple of doses of Valium when I had an 18h flight (Taiwan). I drank at the airport bar before boarding. I was so out of it when we landed that my partner had to tell me what to do. If there had been an emergency procedure I would have died for sure, but at least I wouldn't have been panicked about it.
Ooh what were you up to in Taiwan? I was just there a couple months ago
Visiting a partner's mother but also getting introduced to the country. Well, Taipei and places within driving distance. Incredible place. Spotlessly clean. Everyone was very welcoming. How about you?
A new partner I had impulse invited me and I figured whether that went good or bad it would be interesting. We didn't have much of a plan but spent a week running around anywhere that sounded interesting to us. Jiufen and Taroko Gorge were my favorite parts, and seeing how walkable cities can be
People there are so nice right? That stunned me just how kind and helpful people were
In fairness, I do want to point out that this particular aircraft, N8668A, was built in 2015. This was its first incident. Basically, I’d assume this to be more of a maintenance issue rather than an actual Boeing issue.
Incidents like this now make the news with ‘Another Boeing…’ when usually the media would report ‘Aircraft diverted…’ and not even mention the aircraft type until the second paragraph in. Every Boeing incident now gets put under a magnifying glass.
Don’t get me wrong: Boeing has become a shit company and the people who knowingly put lives at risk for profit need to be lined up against a wall. But this doesn’t really feel like one of those incidents, knowing how often engines are checked and serviced after leaving the factory.
Right, but that's the game you play when you are an aircraft builder. If your record is spotless, people will presume issues with your products are not your fault. If your reputation dips, you get a feedback loop of shit. It's a pretty simple idea that American industry used to understand before they let MBAs take control.
This applies to many things in society, and is generally the entire social construct of "reputation." It's why politicians speak carefully and don't "say it like it is." It's why you don't talk shit about your coworkers. Etc. I feel like a huge portion of our society has completely lost touch with this idea of actions and character having long term consequences.
Yes I believe the current story is "the match made in heaven, Boeing and united, resulted in shit maintenance of a weakly QCed product. Thus, united was running a poor QC program on top of a profitmaxxed airframe. The bill is coming due on all that fuckery".
I believe I heard somewhere this was started by a bird strike.
And not to defend Boeing, but they don't make the engines. The engine is a CFM56 made by CFM International. The same engines are used on some Airbus a320s, Airbus a340s, and McDonald Douglas DC-8's
Basically, I’d assume this to be more of a maintenance issue rather than an actual Boeing issue.
Rather than think this is completely related, shouldn't it instead raise concerns about Boeings maintenance procedures? Extrapolating on their exposed carelessness during engineering and production i don't see it as much of a stretch to say they aren't maintaining their planes properly either.
I'm thinking twice before i fly boeing, period.
As you say, if boeing is getting away with shit maintenance then maybe all companies are and like someone above said, i shouldn't fly at all.
Boeing does not maintain their planes after they sell them. That is on the customer.
They are, however, maintained to Boeing's specified intervals.
Isn't it a Southwest maintenance issue ?
I have no clue whether Southwest maintains their own planes or has a service contract with boeing tbh. Sure is scary either way
Fair?
Boeing killed a mf'er.
We're past fair.
... Plus all those people that died in their knowingly faulty planes
I, for one, am interested in being correct.
Sorry if I’m thick…
The pilot said Southwest.. I didn’t know they had any 787… I thought they only had 737s..???
Ah. Yep. A 737..
A quick lookup of the planes identifier SW3695 does indicate it is registered to a Boeing 737-800 (twin-jet) (B738).
I was about to say that 787s have electronically dimming windows, not the "slider blinds", so it couldn't possibly be a 787.
But also what you said.
An engine cover on a Boeing 737 operated by Southwest Airlines ripped open just after taking off from Denver International Airport Sunday morning.
I wouldn't say that this counts as "engine fall apart".
They forgot the durable outer casing to prevent fall-apart.
So, I know that access to information has made it seem like violent crime is happening more often even though it's actually been trending down. And I'm just wondering if that same phenomenon is happening with plane problems. Because it feels like there's a new issue with a Boeing plane every fucking day and I'm just wondering if that's due to an increase in reporting or if Boeing planes are actually blowing up more often than they used to.
Overall incidents this year are lower than the last couple of years, across all of aviation. I can't find much up to date info on Boeing specifically, but as of 2022 accidents were still roughly going down.
The last fatal plane crash of a US commercial aircraft was 15 years ago. Caused by pilot error, not mechanical failure.
Well there were some high profile problems with the latest iteration of the 737, problems that are actually Boeing's fault and should be their responsibility to fix.
After that though, any problem with any Boeing aircraft becomes juice news-cycle bait, even if the root of the problem was actually, hypothetically, that Southwest Airlines is cheap as fuck and their underfunded under-fucks-given maintenance crew fucked something up and didn't properly secure an engine cover. All the news outlets will care about was "Problem with another Boeing plane!"
That's it, I'm only flying on DC-10s from now on
I understood that reference
sensasionalistic misleading title
engine COVER flys apart.
Yanks, isn't it about time to call in some favours, from New York crime families, MS13 or something, to bypass that corporate captured policies of yours, by going to some of the Boeing execs homes, tying them to chairs and applying car batteries to nipples?
I mean if they're sharks, they're sharks. They don't know no better. But if you start working their thumbs...
Sure but an engine cover falling off is hardly Boeing's fault, that's a maintenance problem. The thing is a lot of these reported failures are maintenance issues, sure Boeing has their problems absolutely, but they also make the most common type of aircraft in the world. Inevitably there are going to be problems and most of those problems will be with the most common aircraft, because, by definition, there are more of them than any other type.
They've hired Matt Stone and Trey Parker to do an apology video.
Boeing is sooo sowwwyyy
Every Boeing plane needs to be grounded and Boeing operations suspended but they wont do that because its less profitable for them
I've noticed a pattern of companies making decisions on profit, Capitalists don't see people as people
A pattern? That's like business 101.
Remember to keep this Last Week Tonight video in mind each time a Boeing plane goes tits up: https://youtu.be/Q8oCilY4szc
What ever happened to those blended wing craft RealEngineering said were gonna kick the old fashioned fuselage's ass soon?
Or high speed rail and/or blimps‽
The blades are supposed to be contained by the inner cover in case of failure and that's the most dangerous part besides a fire... hundreds of blades suddenly flying out radially, sometimes towards the plane, but mostly away.
Yeah if I have to trade screws, I say engine cover is less important than window or exit door screws.
So I haven't found anything about how recently Southwest acquired this aircraft, but unless it's really very new I'm pretty sure this is going to be more the fault of their maintenance department, and the fact that it's another Boeing 737 is coincidental and unsurprising given how big a percentage of all airliners operating today ARE some version of the 737.
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