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I argued here that the whole HP shit was worth it because it was going to imprint in the consciousness and brew beneath the surface. Libs see it as tainted and that shit isn't going away. There are real moral concerns bothering them deep down.

The long term effect is good.

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[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 42 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Libs are only turning on it because it sucks now (more so than before). I pirated Fantastic Beasts 3 and it fucking blew. Seriously everything about FB1 that ws good is gone now.

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yep, if the content was good, they'd look the other way.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

you have to separate art from the artist

Meanwhile the art: the main character owns a slave who actually likes it because it's in his DNA and Harry is a good slave owner unlike those bad, mean slave owners. Also freeing slaves is silly because they like it (ignore the one, happily freed slave.)

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The content will never be good because the only people willing to work on the content are JK's ideological supporters. This causes works derived from it to be tainted by their agenda with no internal pushback. And the people that buy into this hate are soulless creative hacks.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 months ago

It's so bad it was a waste of the bandwidth used to download it and HDD space it took up on the Plex server.

Such horrible trash.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I want them to keep going because they're so fucking bad

I need to see how they follow up on "we voted Wizard Hitler out of power in the marketplace of ideas!" because there's no way to actually do that without acknowledging that that doesn't fucking work, which is anathema to lib worldview

[–] EpicKebabEater@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Rowling would absolutely make a magic creature that magically votes Grindelwald out of the power to use magic or some similar thing. And then they prosecute him with his anti-muggle laws to show bigotry is bad. I want to see how bad the Credence plotline gets, why is he still here? Why is he a character that doesn't act? Free my boy from this series by having him do a sacrifice or something.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Rowling would absolutely make a magic creature that magically votes Grindelwald out of the power to use magic or some similar thing

This is quite literally the plot of Fantastic Beasts 3

The election for Wizard President is decided by a qilin - a cute deer looking creature that can see the True Heart of a wizard and is used to decide on which of the candidates is the best leader because of how pure of heart they are

So Grindelwald captures a qilin, kills it, revives it through dark magic, and replaces the real voting machine with his rigged one to declare himself the winner, until the heroes show up with the real voting machine which declares someone else the winner so Grindelwald gets mad and just accepts the results and leaves

We know at some point later he duels Dumbledore and dies there but that's it, as of right now he got voted out of power

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

I thought you were joking but that really is the plot, wow.

[–] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

We know at some point later he duels Dumbledore and dies there

I hate that I know this since I haven't even bothered with the second or third fantastic beast movie....but: actually he doesn't die there. He dies like 50 years later in a prison cell by Voldemort's hand after revealing Dumbledore had possession of the elder wand.

God I hate that I used to be into this series...even if the politics hadn't aged so poorly the whole series just gets worse year after year in terms of storytelling.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Oh fuck that does mean that if they do another movie it'll just be a lot of "mr grindelwald your fired sir" before he's imprisoned or some shit

God I hate this series so much

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

Fucking lmao come on.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Rowling would absolutely make a magic creature that magically votes Grindelwald out of the power

Isn't that what already happened?

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Seriously everything about FB1 that ws good is gone now.

FB1 was mid at best lol

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

The plot beats were nothing special, but the actors were funny and had chemistry. The main guy got to be an animal geek, and the sad cop realized cops sucked and that this animal guy was more her level.

The baker and the mindreader were a typical sadsack and MPDG but they had good comedic sense.

So of course, the sequels immediately contrived stupif reasons to split the party and doubled down on the grimdark stuff that just barely held together in the first one

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

everything about FB1 that ws good

I cannot believe that they took a great premise like "quirky British guy does conservation for cryptids" and ruined it.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

It's the same issue that Star Wars has with the Skywalkers. They wanted to tie FB into the Potter storyline, and soon enough it was Dumbledore's story and the more grounded shit that people related to was put aside

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

It has been amusing to see the franchise try to stay relevant and fail in almost every way. The park at Universal is the only successful venture it’s had that’s beloved by people and critics at the same time.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Disney or whoever is really leaving money in the table not coming up with their own Harry Potter ripoff IP. Just steal the vibes and aesthetic really and you’re golden.

[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was called The Owl House, and they canceled that show ¯_ (ツ) _/¯

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 months ago

I mean if it doesn't make a billion dollars in the first 6 months... Is it even worth keeping?

/s

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

Idk how you cannot view HP as being profoundly tainted by the author's neolib rightwing bullshit, like not even transphobic stuff, all the other yeesh that's present. Not sure why anyone would want that back, I see people write femslash in this universe sometimes.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's no way the whole "I'm going to buy Hogwarts Legacy, I don't care that Jowling Kowling is a transphobe!" online thing wasn't an astroturf.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some of it was pushed but a good large quantity of people joined in on it.

Then the game was mid, and those actions remain a permanent memory in their psyche. At some point or another a liberal is confronted with a trans person and they put up a pro trans front, but deep down that memory remains. It is a little black seed of guilt that grows roots and sprouts.

Do they all do the same next time? Much less likely. Many of them will pass, or consume with a negative attitude, leading to a pass later. That seed can not be removed.

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

Some of it was pushed but a good large quantity of people joined in on it.

Isn't that basically the definition of astroturfing?

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

They really just want Harry Potter to be in the public consciousness at all times forever, huh?

The series ended over 15 years ago already. But we must have Permanent Regression!

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Honestly harry potter basically destroyed my desire to read as a kid. I loved reading books, until Harry Potter. I gave up on the middle of like book 2, whatever it's called and didn't want to touch books until a few years ago. Now I'm always slowly progressing through a book at least, but oh boy did that set me back years of possibly reading cool books. Should've bought the hobbit or something

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