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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 89 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not young, but I feel the same way as these young people. I don't care about this country, I don't care about its people, and I don't care about its future. It's like that Bob Dylan song, "I used to care, but things have changed."

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I care about its people. I always care about people. Just some people need to be rescued from their hate filled delusion. It's sad to see these poor suckers get tricked into being angry about things that have absolutely nothing to do with them. Talking about conservative media and how all it does is lash out against things. I don't even think there is ryhme or reason to it. It is as if they offer up a topic and open the floor to anyone who has some minor complaint.

[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What is to opt into? It’s barely affordable to live.

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[–] moon@lemmy.ml 59 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Another one of those frustrating segments where they come so close to being right but miss the point entirely by the end. The diagnosis of the issues young people face is on point, but the answer to most of the problems mentioned is not civics courses. It's redistribution of wealth and providing access to housing and social mobility to young people.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

but the answer to most of the problems mentioned is not civics courses

Civics courses are necessary precursors. A lot of youthful idiots think Biden has a big "cancel student loans" button on his bedside table and just chooses not to push it because lmao fuck those guys, make em pay

You can't pursue solutions if you don't know how.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Yeah it’s easy to demand things, it’s hard to accept mutual responsibility and contribute. It’s the difference between demanding mutual aid, and actually showing up

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are 38 US companies whose gross yearly revenue is over $100 billion. The collective amount OVER $100 billion is about the same as the US federal budget. No company should make more than $100 billion in revenue - it's a monopolistic action. Tax all corporate revenue over $100 billion. How much is a variable amount based upon federal deficit spending. If the US government overspends $1 trillion then that amount is paid by these too large corporations. That way US politicians are disincentivized to over spend as the largest corporations will lobby strongly to have a balanced budget. If all US companies downsize or split off to reduce revenue to <$100 billion? Awesome, then we have no monopolies and their lobbying powers are therefore greatly diminished.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Revenue is not profit. Costs haven't been taken out yet. This is part of the structural unfairness of personal income tax vs corporate income tax. Companies can write off everything they need to earn money (rent, supplies, wages, utilities) but people can't.

How many companies have $100 million in profit, or more? It's just one: Apple.

https://www.financecharts.com/screener/most-profitable-country-us

They're already under investigation for monopoly practices:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/21/technology/apple-doj-lawsuit-antitrust.html

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[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago (13 children)

We have every right to be pissed off. I followed every rule you're supposed to follow. And I'm still worried about retiring in the future. The system is fucking stupid. At my job, every system I implement or touch can be changed. Change is a part of life. But for some fucking reason, this country can't change shit. We just sit in it as everything gets worse while everyone who is struggling continues to struggle even more. The rich get richer. America blows.

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If my fiance could work outside the US, we would have left a few years ago.

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[–] ArugulaZ@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And rightly so, for they have been failed. You can't even GO TO SCHOOL without concern that you'll be killed in a mass shooting. This was never a concern for my generation. In 1992, when I graduated, the thought that going to school could be an extinction event for you was not even conceivable. This shouldn't be an ongoing concern for any generation, yet here we are, sending our kids off to school every morning, knowing that there's a slim chance they might not come back.

It's driving me crazy. But when the whole world's gone mad, how can you be sure you're insane?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I graduated in 1997, in a rural town, and I can say that we've knives that caused some injuries and scares and while we did have a kid that brought his dad's handgun to school and threatened people with it, didn't shoot anyone thankfully. This type of shit was around even in the 90's just not around the world and in the 24 hour news like it is now, remember we had Columbine just a few years after we graduated in 1999.

This shit's been bad for a while now.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

It’s not surprising, the power structures keep deviating from the will of people in many cases, or use people as useful idiots for keeping assholes in power.

People like Trump have never won a popular vote in the U.S., and don’t win in the U.S. without gerrymandering.

Moreover, the poverty and misery of immigrants is often exploited to create a “beast” class of citizenry that is then used to create disgust and contempt in others, which is the formula being used in Europe. A lot of these power maintaining strategies are expertly crafted by Harvard/MIT/Ivy League educated sociopaths and psychopaths. People deserve better.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago

fuck that older generation divide to conquer shit.

the ruling class failed us, not our parents generation.

[–] cantw8togo@midwest.social 16 points 6 months ago

Most interesting to me is that these pissed off folks think this is something new. I remember feeling this way in 1968. And as you get older and realize you're dying, guess what. You have to go through the stages of grief again.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago (106 children)

Oh I thought it was because they like Trump, are Russian bots, and tankies. At least if people here are to be believed.

[–] Bobmighty@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

America fails it's citizens in myriad ways. I very openly talk about that. I also know for a fact that all the shit you mentioned is absolutely all over Internet social spaces. It's incredibly obvious.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

What I see people here talking about most often is income inequality. I'm not sure why you didn't bring that up.

[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

One can simultaneously not like Trump, the US/NATO establishment, the CCP, Putin, Tankies, Republicans™, and Democrats™.

None of these cults and demagogues are friends to ordinary people.

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[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago

"It's not just that I have a lot, it's that I have more than everyone else. Forever."

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