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Farmers warn food aisles will soon be empty because of crushing conditions: 'We are not in a good position' (www.yahoo.com)

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 83 points 4 months ago (14 children)

"Fortunately, we know many ways we can make the food system more resilient while reducing food emissions. The biggest opportunity in high-income nations is a reduction in meat consumption and exploration of more plants in our diets," said Dr. Paul Behrens, an associate professor of environmental change at Leiden University in the Netherlands.

Honestly, most people in the modern West eat more meat than is healthy anyway.

Turns out hunter-gatherers haven't evolved to eat meat every meal, three meals a day, all their lives.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

You guys eating meat for breakfast or something?

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sausage, bacon, or ham are fairly standard

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I don't know why, but I was picturing meat in cereal. Bacon is life

[–] meleethecat@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

No one is stopping you from putting bacon in your cereal.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

Bdya-bdya-bdya-That's gross folks!

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Breakfast steak is the most important steak of the day

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

That and bread, yes.

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm Latino and I've gone vegetarian, and to my father this is completely inconceivable. He's used to having meat every meal, and is convinced that I'm going to fall ill if I don't eat meat. I eat so many damn beans anyways that I'm good without it.

This whole eating meat every day, thing, seems pretty new right? Like industrial revolution forward. Most people in history weren't expecting meat all the time

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Only because they couldn't afford it...lol

Protein has always been the most desirable and most expensive part of any meal.

The fact that Americans eat so much meat is a testament to wealth not simply bad eating behavior.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (8 children)

That's because the general population tried to imitate the rich when the standard of living increased, and the rich in general loved to hunt and eat lots of meat.

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Exactly. You should really be eating a lot of roots, nuts, leaves, and berries then occasionally catch something that can run from you.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I'm a vegetarian but my wife calls me an opportunistic meat eater, like a horse. I don't eat meat, except when it's Christmas and my mom makes her turkey, or the one time a year I allow myself to have a big Mac.

I don't think my system could handle a steak, or pork anymore, it would probably destroy me.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 78 points 4 months ago (2 children)

UK Farmers, might be a good idea to specify that.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, my bad. Headline is ambiguous.

This is worldnews so...

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 12 points 4 months ago

Unlike Reddit, you can edit titles on Lemmy.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was thinking X to doubt. Honestly still am, because they can import as well as the next place, and some areas are only getting more productive.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The last time this was posted it specifically mentioned Brexit complications for importing.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I admit, I didn't actually read it. Oops.

I'd be shocked if importing at all wasn't possible, though. Food is the first thing people buy.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

The problem is regulations that are different in the UK compared to those in the EU. It makes it complicated to import food.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 70 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Are these the same farmers who were protesting regulations meant to stave off these “crushing conditions?”

[–] Buelldozer 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are these the same farmers who were protesting regulations meant to stave off these “crushing conditions?”

If you're referring to the recent protests in Europe I'd say that you missed the mark. The recent changes would have done nothing but put European farmers out of business while moving production to South America. So in addition to creating more food insecurity it would have also done more environmental damage as things would have still have been grown / raised and then required trans-Atlantic shipping!

The EU was trying to sell it as an environmental bill but it was nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to do with food production what's been done with manufacturing; outsource the messy environmentally destructive part to somewhere else in the world so we can pretend it's not happening.

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Dont forget your also De valueing the land so you can then come in and pick up huge swaths of land on the cheap when the farmers go bust.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Pretty invariably.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 36 points 4 months ago (6 children)

If only someone had listened to the climatologists 40 years ago.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

If only someone had listened to scientists in the late 1800’s who correctly predicted carbon dioxide would lead to the greenhouse effect. People haven’t been listening for over a century. https://folk.universitetetioslo.no/roberan/t/EarlyEstimates1.shtml

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 27 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Seems pretty stupid for the owning class to let the working class starve. I guess we'll have to find another source of food…

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (4 children)

No snowflake ever feels responsible for the avalanche.

People in general act in their own self interest, and have trouble seeing the wider influence of their decisions.

That's why good government is so important, because establishing rules and regulations should be a dedicated job done by people committed to seeing the big picture.

But that ain't the government we got.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago (9 children)

I'm tired of hearing that "the people" are responsible.

Companies are responsible. You walk into a grocery store and 90% of the products are packaged in plastics. Most of the products are not produced in a sustainable way. But it's the only options we have. Most people want to help the planet, but don't have the option.

And no matter who anyone votes for, governments around the world are too concerned with the economy (read: helping companies make more money) to take any real concrete action and implement laws to help the environment.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I stopped taking my private jet for trips under 1 hour and instructed the staff not to use air conditioning on the yachts unless notified I’ll be there 8 hours in advance.

No need to thank me. We all have to do our part.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Companies won't do anything unprofitable without being forced.

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[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"For the people, by the people" has morphed into "For the corporations, by the corporations" in this dystopian timeline I don't want to be a part of anymore.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago

Always has been. Men only, property owners, 3/5ths and all that.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think a more useful way to look at it is that the government represents the people who control more resources. If we assume that, then democracy has to extend beyond the voting booth, into the realm of resource surplus accumulation and distribution. Ultimately it's in the hands of labor. If labor doesn't allow for few to accumulate and control most of the surplus, then that surplus will be spread out among more people and thus the government would represent a wider group of people. Unionize, take the surplus and force the government to represent your unions. This is actionable.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

All governance is based on balances of power, both real and perceived. Only by empowering and acknowledging the power of the people can democracy truly flourish.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I want proof that a ban on animal products will be first rolled out on the super wealthy and then on the rest of us

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[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

Bullshit article from greedy rich Tories but it doesn't matter because everyone just went off on their own rant regardless and didn't even try and engage with any part of it beside the headline.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is the kind of inflation that raising interest rates cannot solve. They'll try it anyway.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My salary sure isn't raising enough to keep up lol

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Good thing they are part of a massive single market which can absorb regional disasters oh wait.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Might be wise for individuals to learn how to grow stuff.

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