ButtBidet

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[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago

I also think there's some value in actively signalling that the conversation was actually really sucky and you hated it.

NGL I'm guilty of this

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago

"I give myself the pass"

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

order-of-lenin

You're one of only 10% of the people in my life who can apologise, so you're better than most westoids

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, did you reply to the wrong comment?

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Sorry. I guess my rage meter goes up when it's the animal thing. And I see enough massive carnist liberalism on Facebook that it's hard to restrain myself.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think you're right, but we're talking just "disengage" not "here's a 500 word essay why you're wrong now disengage". Another user suggested a nicer way to put it, and I think it's fair.

I admit, it can be a passive aggressive way to end a convo. But a final end to a convo can be good for mental health. Like you're right but there's some good to it as well.

Now that I've typed that all out, please DISENGAGE from me! owl-wink

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

if we instead said "I'm disengaging" or "i want to cease this convo", idk something that had more to a tinge of humility to it I think it could come off better.

Ya I agree, this sounds way better.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Kinda shitty to make an argument for animal entertainment prisons on vibes, tbh

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Wow that sucks

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I can't believe you call yourself a "leftist". This is the most cringe behaviour I've seen...

(ten paragraphs later)

Therefore I respectfully request that you disengage from me for being the worst poster on this site.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Thanks. I guess I'd like them to not be able to reply to me, but not seeing them is pretty good too.

 

Please disregard my mod status for this post. This isn't a comm wide opinion and fellow vegans are welcome to disagree.

Every time a obviously decent PETA post is shared on social media, maybe about fur or pet breeding, people come out of the woodwork to comment "wow one good opinion of PETA" or "broken clock is right twice a day". A very easy way for content creators to get views is to make yet another anti-PETA video. I needed to unfollow one YouTuber I liked, Call Me Kevin, because he played all the PETA video games, did the snarky thing, and had nothing to say about animals consumed for food.

Sure PETA isn't perfect. They're an NGO and have most of the problems of the NGO-industrial-complex. They don't have anything to say about non animal issues. Arguably they're not intersectional. Their campaigns can be a be weird or cringe by Hexbear standards. The objectifying people's bodies thing is very debatable, although in PETA's defense, all the naked people in their campaigns are volunteers. It's questionable if someone who's eagerly signing up for a cause is being "objectified". I've had mates, better looking than me, passionately strip to their underwear for the cause of hurting less animals. But I'm not a woman nor an expert, and there may be some real space for critique, if you're a vegan.

The number of times I've had to hear non-vegans, even left wing non-vegans, repeat corporate talking points is embarrassing af for non vegans. On multiple occasions I've been banned from non-vegan pages for pushing back against this, politely and without insults. The amount of times I've been treated worse than racists get treated on social media and banned for gently pointing out animal abuse is at least a dozen. So some PETA Twitter post made some carnist sad/angry for ten seconds. Non-vegans feel stress from getting called out on their contribution to animals abuse. To this I say: good, I hope you feel stressed about what you do.

I can't stress enough. PETA isn't perfect. But I have worked with them for animal-rights campaigns, and they're very helpful with resources and funding. In regards to the animal euthanasia thing, they could easily be liberals and give it up for marketing purposes. But their attitude is basically "we don't give a damn about what non-vegans think on the issue", which is kinda based. And I hope carnists continue to get cry about what PETA and other vegans are saying.

 

I sometimes see New Atlas videos popping up, and I have often needed to have the same struggle session with the poster of the video. So my problem, being an old fuck that I am, have been following Brian since the late naughts. Back in 2009-ish, being an internet nerd meant Indymedia, Blogger, and Geocities created webpages. He was a pretty open reactionary before Twitter and YouTube became big. He tied his wagon pretty solidly to Inforwars around 2010.

Brian Berletic used to go by the name of Tony Cartalucci. The original Tony C used to write HEAPS for Infowars [example] [example - he cites Paul Joseph Watson] [example]. Sadly the Wayback Machine doesn't have a search name feature, but you can still find Infowars when you type his name in. The message was very globalist, George Soros kinda stuff.

I hear you saying, hey ButtBidet, that was in 2012. Maybe the guy has grown in the last twelve years. Hey, many of us started out as libs.

To which I answer: with the name change to Brian Berletic, he's distanced himself from the Infowars garbage and gotten a better message, but he's still far right as fuck.

For example, he did the antivax thing hard during 2020-21. He's done a lot of climate change skepticism pretty recently. Lastly, he's very clearly pro-monarchy.

I see that he writes from the maybe Russian funded journal NEO (according to Wikipedia which I'm too lazy to verify). Honestly I couldn't care less if Russia is funding him, but I just assume that he's an intellectual for hire.

 

I went to Vietnam a couple times. If you hang out downtown in the city, you might get a random Jehovah's Witness or Seventh Day Adventist* try to chat you up. "Oh, we can't do missionary work out in the open, so we just do one-on-one conversations like this". Despite the lack of "Jesus saves, die sinner" signs in Hanoi, you can definitely find Catholic and Protestant churches in Vietnam.

The Western press likes to piss and moan about settler nation missionaries that go, without proper visas mind you, to spread their Western versions of Christianity to the DPRK, only to get deported. So am I allowed to enter a white people country without a visa to stir up trouble and expect no consequences???

I'm the furthest thing from an expert on Myanmar. I get everything I know from Burmese friends. But if you look into the minority people situation, many of them are being heavily proselytised by the worst of the Amerikan type. I don't want the Pat Robertson's the world anywhere near struggling people.

*I'm definitely not saying that JWs and SDAs are anywhere near the worst as Christian sects go.

 

So I bought a heap of cheap manufacturered soviet medals on Aliexpress, and I occasionally will let people in my org award them to each other for praiseworthy stuff. But now there's anarchists in my group and they might find that offensive. So what's the anarchist version?

I swear to God, this isn't a bit.

 

Hi all, it's whitepwrfan69, your lovely admin here at lemmy.balls. The mod team and I have been hard at work making sure that this place is fun and pleasant experience for all the users here. After days of discussion, looking through literal petabytes of data, we've decided the best course of action is to defederate from Hexbear. Although we very much believe in free speech, there are some pretty obvious dangers coming from federation with them. Let me list the top examples that me and the mod team fleshed out.

 

Even Amerika sounds better

I can't say this shit in work, so I'm gonna say it here.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/26218550

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(posting to both communities)

A carnist lemmy world instance admin has stepped in and meatsplained to the mods while restoring comments that violated the community's rules. They deleted comments that they did not agree with, citing 'misinformation', and threatened to demod the mods if those comments were removed again. The comments were deleted and the admin was banned from the community as per violating the rules of the community, that was until they unbanned themselves (admin abuse) and unmodded two of the moderators because of "promoting harmfull actions against pets".

As far as it stands, if the lemmy world community wasn't already not a safe vegan place for you (it really wasn't) it most certainly isn't now as carnists (lemmy world instance admin) currently mod it.

I suggest any vegan who wants a safe and welcoming space to come and interact with vegantheoryclub.org. Sorry for any inconvienance that this may have caused. I am deeply upset at the admins actions today and don't condone them whatsoever.

 

All environmental indicators showed a positive association with amounts of animal-based food consumed. Dietary impacts of vegans were 25.1% (95% uncertainty interval, 15.1–37.0%) of high meat-eaters (≥100 g total meat consumed per day) for greenhouse gas emissions, 25.1% (7.1–44.5%) for land use, 46.4% (21.0–81.0%) for water use, 27.0% (19.4–40.4%) for eutrophication and 34.3% (12.0–65.3%) for biodiversity. At least 30% differences were found between low and high meat-eaters for most indicators. Despite substantial variation due to where and how food is produced, the relationship between environmental impact and animal-based food consumption is clear and should prompt the reduction of the latter.

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