this post was submitted on 10 Aug 2024
488 points (99.0% liked)

politics

19170 readers
5643 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 98 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Keep in mind that Jesse Ventura is himself a crazy conspiracy theorist that borders on being detached from reality. He is on a completely different branch of the cray cray tree than Donald Trump, but they're both crazy.

Taking sides in a Ventura vs. Trump feud is like taking sides in an argument between two mental patients over who's president of Jupiter.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree that Jesse Ventura is an unhinged loon, but I have to give my proper respects to that Jesse Ventura is an unhinged loon with strong moral convictions. He believes racism is wrong, that gay marriage should be legal, and that we should see eachother for who we really are instead of hiding behind manufactured machismo (which is such a fucking wild stance for a professional wrestler). I don't think Jesse Ventura is a hero, because he's too detached from reality to be one, but I do think he knows a when someone is like Donald Trump, Pat Buchanan, or David Duke is completely morally bankrupt, and for that I respect him.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He shot down alex jones about people crossing the border and using social programs they shouldnt by brining up that it's really the fault of the system for being broken and not the people for using every tool they are given

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 months ago

This is what I mean. The core values at the center of Jesse Ventura are good ones, and he doesn't let people bully others. He also believes some really weird shit is true that isn't. But like. Man. He'd be a really good person to run around town with. He'd always take the right side on the big issues and when you're drinking or getting high he'd say some shit that would be really fun to talk about even if you're taking it less serious than him. But he's at his core not someone to follow. But I'll grant him the title of "someone to emulate." You can bring his brand of strong willed kindness to your conception if what it means to operate in America. He's someone who understands the broad strokes of what's going on and what people are about. If you grew up watching Jesse Ventura and thought he was really cool: I have good news. You're right. Its my official stance thay Jesse Ventura is really cool

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Ventura tried to unionize wrestlers and was snitched on by Hulk Hogan. People I've talked to said he was an okay governor. Ventura is a weird guy but unlike Trump the dude has a heart.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (3 children)

taking sides in an argument between two mental patients over who’s president of Jupiter.

It's stupid to take sides in that argument because everyone knows I'm the president of Jupiter

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Excuse me but I didn't vote for you.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You don't vote for president of Jupiter

[–] Iamsqueegee@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s an autonomous collective.

[–] swab148@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now we see the violence inherit in the solar system!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Jupiter

~~repressed~~ compressed

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

#NotMyCollective

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

What did i vote for them?

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Excuse me, but the Jupiter Charter of 1982 clearly states in section 1 that I am, by a unanimous vote of the people of Jupiter, president for life.

Before that, the entire population of Jupiter was officially zero. So I decided to vote myself as President of Jupiter, along with chief justice of the Jupiter Supreme Court, and every other government position of Jupiter. When I wrote the Jupiter Charter, I did it with a vision that the people of Jupiter would from there on self-govern and make their own choices. So I added a clause saying that only natural-born citizens of Jupiter, who are physically on Jupiter on election day, can vote for anything. So until there are at least two people physically on Jupiter and able to vote me out, I am and will remain the president of Jupiter.

My inauguration speech, and our national anthem for your reference.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a President-in-exile of the duly elected Senate of Jupiter, I hereby impeach you for sedition and treason.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I think I need to let you know about the last time someone tried that. See, they tried to impeach me when I was president of Saturn and tried to have me impeached from exile on one of Saturn's moons. So I blew up the whole moon. Where do you think those rings came from? When you have Presidential immunity, you can commit moonicide like that and not lose any votes. It's where the Supreme Court got the idea for their latest ruling.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

#NotMyPresident

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

None of this, however, disputes or refutes Jesse’s factual statement of Trump being a huge chickenshit coward and draft dodger— who has completely abused the freedom others have provided.

Facts are facts.

I always marvel at Dotard Don’s ability to play so much fucking golf with “bone spurs” that also, when it was convenient, somehow prevented him from serving.

#DraftDodgeDonald

🐔🐓🐔

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

None of this, however, disputes or refutes Jesse’s factual statement of Trump being a huge chickenshit coward and draft dodger— who has completely abused the freedom others have provided.

Facts are facts.

This is 100% correct. I just wanted to point out that Ventura also has a few screws loose. He can be (and in this case, is) both crazy and correct.

I always marvel at Dotard Don’s ability to play so much fucking golf with “bone spurs” that also, when it was convenient, somehow prevented him from serving.

hahaahahahahaha, like the man walks all 18 holes. Or walks at all. The man gets his fat ass carried around in a golf cart, and makes one of his suckups be his caddy, He's been known as a cheater in golf for decades. You could tell me that he doesn't even bother to actually swing the golf club at all, and I'd believe it. Hell, I'd put 2:1 odds down that says he doesn't even play all 18 holes and skips the tough ones.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He’s been known as a cheater in golf for decades

That's the funniest thing though... someone as "rich" and connected as he claims to be, he could have every single masters champion for the last 50 years give him personal lessons at his private golf courses. But instead, he plays multiple times per week and still cheats, and still is pretty mid at golf.

[–] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Taking lessons would require showing humility and admitting he isn't already naturally the best at something.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago
[–] Baggins@feddit.uk 15 points 2 months ago

There is no president, it's run by the Jupiter Mining Corporation.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm on Jesse's side and I don't care. We're lucky the Republicans are dumbasses because he actually would have siphoned votes from Harris as a spoiler candidate instead of RFK.

Jesse's unironically based as hell, he's just rightly suspicious of for profit healthcare and the US government.

https://www.ontheissues.org/Jesse_Ventura.htm

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My daughter asked me who he was and I said, imagine a politician that says something like "every citizen of this nation deserves to have healthcare, and it shouldn't matter what their financial situation is. Everyone deserves healthcare and a living wage, except those lizard people who disguise themselves as Americans, but are actually subterranean terrorists who are trying to control the world with mind control lasers"

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

No one has to take sides, since only one of them is running for President.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I would rather hear more about Jupiter's presidents than this shitshow