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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think the World in general would be better off if Trump loses.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 55 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Not just Trump, the entire GOP needs to take a serious, undeniable shellacking this election cycle. The sort of loss that forces them, and it won't be easy, to do some serious introspection regarding the future existence of their party. We will need to force them to lose so badly that they're toxicity is blatant, absolutely radioactive. At all levels from city dog catcher on up. If Harris/Walz doesn't have a sympathetic Congress they won't be able to pull our proverbial bacon out of the fire.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup. I'm no republican, but the country would be better if they jettison the rightmost christiofascist wing of the party to the fringe that they are.

Again not that I'm seeking it, but a more centrist "sane, sober" republican party would be a real challenge for centrist democrats to contend with.

It's like they're currently in a ketamine induced fugue state. Some day, maybe still a few years from now, the record is gonna stop and they'll realize the palin-jones-trump arc has run it's course.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Who is the Jones in the palin-jones-trump arc?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Thanks. He did cross my mind but didn't fit as a politician.

I ruled out Paula Jones pretty quickly.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Is it weird that my mind went to Jim Jones? The cult leader who poisoned everyone with kool-aid?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For.sure. I just kinda made it up ya know?

I feel like this wacky shit started when McCain brought on palin to fire up the base.

Jones aligned the crazy conspiracy theorists with a political group

Trump refined brand and method into a singular figure

[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm crossing my fingers that Florida flips, because IF Florida flips there's a really good chance Texas flips too. At least I hope so, based on the trends in the polls. But then it'll be a real landslide 🌊

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

If that happens, Harris would probably win by a larger nationwide margin than Obama 2008. Not holding out for that.

It is interesting that Florida and Texas have about the same margin in polls, though.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There is no amount of introspection that could accomplish that, especially due to a mere election loss. At this point, the GOP is an amalgam of a cult and a criminal conspiracy that's so far down the deep end of fascism that nothing short of being dismantled by the DOJ under racketeering and/or insurrection charges or being defeated militarily will put it off its current path.

I mean, if you can think of any organization in history similar to Trump's MAGA GOP that has rehabilitated itself without externally-applied force or violence, I'd love to hear it 'cause it would make me feel more hopeful. I, for one, don't know that it's ever happened any time in human history.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Question is......if Trump loses in 2024, does the GOP let him run AGAIN in 2028? Because I'd be fine if he keeps running, and keeps losing. And the 2028 race would presumably be against Harris. So I'd LOVE for him to lose twice to a black woman. Just because I know HE cares so much about gender and race, and it would be the one thing that would crush his poor little ego.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

I strongly suspect his dementia-riddled brain will be too far gone for another run in 4 years. Hope so anyway.

[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

They would ABSOLUTELY let him run again in '28 if he wanted to. They won't like it but those chickenshits are too cowardly to stand up to him. He is single handedly ruining the GOP and I'm here for it.

They used to be able to deny or explain away their racism, sexism, xenophobia, and corruption, but Trump has forced them to go full mask off. They can't deny it anymore and neither can anyone else who still calls themselves a Republican. I'm begging the universe to let this motherfucker run again.