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For those baffled by Donald Trump’s forays into meandering discourses about electrocution, bacons sales or cannibal killers at his recent political rallies, the former US president had an explanation.

Trump assured supporters in Pennsylvania on Saturday that what might look like incoherent ramblings as he frequently departed from his scripted speech were instead indicators of his brilliance that impressed other great minds.

“I do the weave. You know what the weave is? I’ll talk about, like, nine different things that they all come back brilliantly together. And it’s like friends of mine that are like English professors, they say: ‘It’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen,’” he told a bemused audience.

“But the fake news, you know what they say, ‘He rambled.’ It’s not rambling. What you do is you get off a subject to mention another little tidbit, then you get back on to the subject, and you go through this and you do it for two hours, and you don’t even mispronounce one word.”

But, increasingly, many others are not persuaded, including some of his own supporters.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 114 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

I love it. He thinks what he is doing is the same thing that John Oliver does masterfully on Last Week Tonight. What he’s actually doing I cannot for sure say, but I am fairly certain it involves extreme ADHD with maybe a side of schizophrenia and some sort of personality disorder. Oh and a large helping of rapidly worsening dementia.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 96 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I have ADHD. I've described my train of thought as less a single train on a single track, but each car on one of 8 tracks, some of which are multitrack drifting. But I don't sound like Trump. He sounds like he's lost his marbles and when he bends over to pick one up, dumps out the rest of the bag.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

I have adhd too, the multitrack drifting has a point! It's all leading to something specific. Trump? He never had a point.

[–] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

I also have ADHD (and know a lot of people with it) and totally agree. We may be hard to understand at times, but we have a clear line of tangents that can be explained. Trump on the other hand has no coherence or traceable train of thought. He just jumps between half-finished, completely unrelated thoughts.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 29 points 2 months ago

Donald Trump definitely does not have schizophrenia. ADHD is a maybe, but Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a certainty.

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

There have been rumors that he abuses amphetamines for decades.

[–] Regna@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The scary thing is that so many people jive with that weird insanitary mental disorder.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I feel like they just have convinced themselves somehow, or it’s Stockholm syndrome sort of.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Read The Authoritarians by Bob Altermeyer. He will explain everything going on in Trump’s follower’s minds. As well as Trumps.

You can read the whole book for free! https://theauthoritarians.org/

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

schizophrenia

I'm not a psychiatrist, but I talked with one about what looks like this AFAIK, if I understood correctly, he called it lose associations, associating things all over the place disregarding their lack of relevance.

Of course just exhibiting one symptom, doesn't mean he is schizophrenic.

I think Trump does show some ADHD like behavior too, again I'm not a professional, but I think the problem for people with ADHD is that they forget where they came from, and Trump does seem to be able to get back to that.

But for sure, this is not a normal way to present your views. Except for a small child maybe, which fits the toddler label often associated with Trumps behavior.

So my best guess is that Trump is mentally like a child for whatever reason (Dementia most likely). Obviously besides being a malignant narcissist and pathological liar.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course just exhibiting one symptom, doesn't mean he is schizophrenic.

He is not. He is just a cunt, without any mental disorder apart from sociopathy and extreme narcissism.

[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

I fucking hate these people who see Trump who is a huge malignant shitstain and immediately jump to pinning it on my disability and the medication I use to remedy it.

He's a dipshit whose point is causing suffering of those he believes deserve it.

When he trips over his words trying to express those fucked up, poorly evidenced points to potentially well-adjusted viewers, these ableistic fucks go "golly gee, he surely must have a decent point, but his ADHD and/or addy habit caused him to forget"

the ableism is rampant in this thread holy shit.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 12 points 2 months ago

This is absolutely not ADHD, this is his dementia and substance abuse. Having ADHD you may be distracted while trying to tell someone about something, but you'll be excited to talk about a special interest which may lead into another, but stuff will make sense and often more in depth than most care to hear.

Trump however has no interests beyond grifting and trying to sleep with Ivanka. However he word salads about a bunch of things he knows little to nothing about. He slurs words all over the place, stops mid-word and like brain skips for a sec, and then just goes into something unrelated. It's like his brain is constantly corrupting and causing a reboot.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think Trump does show some ADHD like behavior too, again I'm not a professional, but I think the problem for people with ADHD is that they forget where they came from, and Trump does seem to be able to get back to that.

Couldn't that just be because it typically has a teleprompter telling him what he's supposed to be talking about?

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I think Trump does show some ADHD like behavior too, again I'm not a professional, but I think the problem for people with ADHD is that they forget where they came from, and Trump does seem to be able to get back to that.

Could it be the teleprompter?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Just bog-standard demented sociopathic malignant narcissism.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's mostly just brain rot. Like, let's be real: this man has never checked his brain for worms.