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“With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.”

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 87 points 2 months ago (37 children)

Pretending they had a chance in a voting system that can barely support two parties was kinda pitiable. Until we have RCV for federal elections at a minimum, they will never have a shot.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

A-fucking-men.

The Green Party should be the RCV party and that should be their main focus. After that then they and any other party would actually stand a chance. Republicans are actively banning RCV from being implemented and Democrats are slow walking it, but we need to keep pushing.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 20 points 2 months ago (11 children)

TBH, I don't see it happening except organically from within the Democratic Party. If enough progressive Democrats get elected, I think it stands a chance to happen in our lifetimes.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

That would mean actually caring about running campaigns for state goverments. State governments are the ones that can (and in Alaska's case have) implement RCV.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 22 points 2 months ago

This is a little discussed problem with fptp (along with many others) it gives minor parties perverse incentive to play spoiler, which gives foreign actors an opportunity to find spoilers.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They have a shot, by joining the Democratic Party. The same way that progressives join liberals, make their voice heard, and let the voters decide.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or, just here me out, the Democrats adopt ranked choice voting from the Green Party platform, ditch aid to Israel, and make Jill Stein obsolete. I know, I know, it’s crazy. But, it might just work.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or just hear me out, the green party stops playing spoiler every 4 years. Proving that their platform is meaningless and empty. And instead focuses on running and recruiting for state and local legislature to actually pass ranked Choice voting. And where it makes sense, such as offices no Democrat is running for. Recruit and endorsed a candidate to run as the combined democrat/green party candidate. Instead of constantly splitting the vote helping conservatives and the bourgeoisie.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

I guess we’re never getting ranked choice voting then. And the genocide will continue until morale improves, according to bourgeois liberals.

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