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Pardon who? Hunter Biden case renews ethical debate over use and limits of peculiar presidential power
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If a nazi uses the n word...
No one is surprised.
When your only other option also uses it, that doesn't make it ok because they didn't mean to say it in public intentionally.
When you settle for "a slip" and say that's ok, the only thing you're doing is making it easier for people to act like the nazi isn't that bad. Because you've normalized it
If Biden wants to "take the low road" then fucking take it and do some good for the American people. Don't do it only for purely selfish reasons.
That is why people are upset with Biden about this
It's like saying it's ok to steal food for your starving family to justify stealing, then you just eat all the food yourself.
There's a lot Biden can do to help Americans still, he just doesn't give a fuck.
I don't care about this pardon because it's a crime around bullshit that affects nobody, and has only gone the way it has due to political nonsense. The vast majority of drug offenses are similar.
I disagree with Trump's pardons because he has literally surrounded himself with career criminals, asked them to do criminal things, and pardoned them when they got in trouble for it.
Only one of these two is institutionalized corruption.
Sounds like a trump supporter arguing gun laws need revoked....
Like, you realize he wasn't charged for smoking crack.
He had charges for buying a gun while on crack, trying to throw it away by a school. And then it not being there when going back to get it.
The vast amount of cannabis probably. But not Crackheads.
Do you honestly believe habitual crack use that results in multiple trips to rehab isn't a reason for someone to not be able to possess a gun?
I honestly wouldn't be surprised, just holding out hope for the party for some stupid reason.
What I've been seeing today tho, Dems have gone full trump and will excuse anything and always say they're party had a reason for personal corruption and not helping the public
You are a prime case for Biden derangement syndrome. Jfc
That's a fair criticism of Biden, but Biden wasn't being criticized by that comment, rather the media coverage was. The media has consistently shrugged their shoulders and acted like nothing was wrong as Trump time and time again utterly violates both conventions and laws, but the moment anyone not in the MAGA-sphere puts even a toe out of line it's treated as a huge scandal. Should Joe have pardoned Hunter? No it undermines the entire message of nobody is above the law, but at the same time it's such a trivial thing in the face of the absolute and complete disregard of both morals and laws shown by Trump and his team daily.
In the face of such blatant double standards the media's rush to clutch their pearls in this case just rings as exceptionally hollow.
I disagree that he shouldn’t have pardoned Hunter. Hunter went through the legal system with no advantages, reached a plea deal that was perfectly normal for any regular citizen, only to have Republicans blow it up to have something to beat Joe over the head with. Hunter has paid his late taxes with fines. The only remaining issue was him lying on his form about being on drugs while buying a gun. They were going to throw him under the prison for that dumb shit.
But yeah, Joe needs to go on a pardon spree. Trump established that new norm last time.
I disagree. Hunter's prosecution was political in nature. Anyone else accused of the same crimes would not have faced even close to what he did. If it were anyone else I would still want Biden to pardon him.
I am honestly completely indifferent to Biden pardoning Hunter. My beef is with the media. This impacts the life of 1 person: Hunter Biden. They're giving it wall to wall coverage because it's drama and they're reality TV calling themselves journalists.
My beef is with Biden, because even if the only thing he can do is pardon people, Hunter ain't the only one trump will go after
You telling me Hunter needs protected more than Fauci?
Even if so, why isn't Biden pardoning the other people as well
The issue is Biden isn't doing more, same issue as the last four years
While he's at it can he give me a pardon as well? Never know trump might be upset with what we say here. /s
This is very much not a trending story in the media because they want more pardons or more extreme action. It may be why you're upset, but you're interjecting yourself in an entirely less ideological fabricated controversy. It's a "tsk, tsk, the norms" response.
All that Americans have left, on both sides I might add, is the desire to see the other side suffer. Republicans have been doing this for a while. The Trump presidency will disenfranchise the Democrats to the same level, evening the playing field.
This is where America is at now. Just angry people with nothing left but to hurt some scapegoats.
The only question is is this a race to the bottom (bottom being a civil war killing millions), or will the public wake the fuck up?
Really? What Democratic politicians are setting out to try to harm people? And what specific policies?
People really just want their team to hurt or piss off the other side.
It really ain't gonna be long till both sides are firmly "us/them" and the rich will keep making the poor's fight each other.
It's fucking embarrassing