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Hi everyone and welcome to the new Megathread :) For my first Mega I want to share a special interest of mine: the magnetic field and how to understand its behavior intuitively.

I'm guessing most of us have played with magnets before at some point and have felt that mysterious force pushing them apart or pulling them together, depending on how the magnets are oriented toward each other. Some of you may have also seen diagrams like this (By Geek3 - Own work,This file was derived from: Ironfilings cylindermagnet.svg This file was derived from: Magnet compasses.svg, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=88524982)

Or done an experiment where you visualize the magnetic field lines with iron filings like this (Public domain, Newton Henry Black, Harvey N. Davis (1913) Practical Physics, The MacMillan Co., USA, p. 242, fig. 200)

These lines represent the shape of the magnetic field. The way you can interpret them is that if you place a compass in the field, the compass will align with the field lines at that point. And the closer the lines are to each other, the stronger the magnetic field is in that area. Also, magnetic field lines always form closed loops. They appear to end at the poles of a magnet, but actually they continue on inside the magnet. They do however exit/enter the magnet at the poles.

"But Witchy," you may ask, "why are the lines so concentrated at the poles but then they spread out so much as they travel from one pole of the magnet to the other?" Excellent question my theoretical student XD.

This is I think the key point that was a bit of a eureka moment for me when I realized it a long time ago when I was studying this stuff: the magnetic field lines "want" to be as short as possible while also "wanting" to be as far apart as possible. And when I say want, it does actually behave a little bit like a desire, as the magnetic objects in this field will experience a magnetic force tryin gthe move the object to spread out the field lines and make them shorter.

Let's use this picture I grabbed from Wikipedia as an example: (By Geek3 - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10555891)

the bar magnet creates a strong magnetic field at the poles, which means lots of magnetic field lines are squeezed closely together at the poles where they enter/exit the magnet. These lines don't want to be so tightly packed together, so they immediately start spreading out but also immediately start curving towards the opposite pole to try to keep the distance short. If you then try to bring the north pole of another bar magnet close to the north pole of this one, both have magnetic field lines coming out trying to get to their respective south poles, but now even more tightly packed together as you bring the magnets together. Since the magnetic field lines don't want to be so close together, both magnets experience a force pushing each other away so that the magnetic field lines aren't being pushed together so tight.

Similarly, if the south pole of one bar magnet is brought near the north pole of another, the magnetic field lines exiting the north pole of one want to go to the south pole, but the closest south pole is the south pole of the other magnet being brought close, so now the lines go through both magnets before looping back around: (By Geek3 - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10515628)

However, between the closest poles of the two magnets, the lines are still concentrated but will try to spread out between the poles. Since the lines want to be as short as possible and don't want to spread out, the magnetic field exerts a force on the bar magnets pulling them together, since that would shorten the lines between the poles down to pretty much nothing.

Finally, a few of you may have been wondering what determines how much the magnetic field lines want to spread out vs shorten. These two tendencies are in opposition pretty much all the time, since spreading the lines out more requires making them longer. This is determined by something called the magnetic permeability which is a property of the materials that the field is passing through (even air or a vacuum). High permeability materials tend to concentrate the magnetic field lines more and allow them to get shorter, while low permeability materials tend to force the lines to spread out and lengthen. Examples of materials with high permeability are iron, cobalt, and other magnetic or ferromagnetic materials. Low permeability are pretty much anything that doesn't experience force in a magnetic field, so most things.

Post thumbnail attribution: (By Omegatron - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=640068)

Anyway I hope some of you enjoyed this rant or find the information here useful. I can talk about magnets all day so feel free to hit me up if you want, though my inbox will be overflowing for the next week I'm guessing.

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[โ€“] blipblip@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure if this is the best place to ask but:

Anyone have any reading material for someone who just doesn't get gender? (Thinking more article length, not books, ADHD gang)

Idk what I'd call myself and I think part of the reason is I just plain don't understand what people mean when they say things like feeling masc cause it's just like what does that even mean??? I'm just doing me what do you mean something makes you feel femme? I reckon I'm some kind of not cis cause I don't think cis people spend much time thinking about it but maybe that's off base? Idk

It's confusing to me in the same way when I found out most people can see things in their head and it wasn't like people talking in metaphor

Anyway thanks you're all great don't let the world get you down but if you do have any links pls send it's a slow work day and I can feel the ADHD fixation coming on

[โ€“] WalrusDragonOnABike 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think part of the problem is different people seem to describe it differently.

Some describe an inherent feeling of being a [insert relevant gender].

Some its at least partially about social relations. Things like name & pronouns are part of it, but there's lots of ways most people treat people differently based on perceived gender differences. In an extreme example, my neighbors follow some strict gender roles, so the husbands aren't supposed to directly speak with other women generally? So they won't talk to my mom's wife, but will rather go talk through their wives. OTOH, the do directly talk to my mom, making it clear they don't really gender her as a woman regardless of name or pronouns they use. My mom isn't a trans woman.

Some its partially about the physical body.

Some may consider some cultural stereotypes important to their gender (things like clothing, mannerisms, etc).

Some attribute it to different roles in reproductive labor.

Some transphobes think of gender as nothing more than that bits you were born with.

I'm not sure of any articles that would cover the idea. And I think most books would primarily just give one person's experience of gender. The gender dysphoria bible is the only thing that comes to mind that tries to catalog various forms of gender dissonance people may experience, which I guess gives an idea of what gender is to people?

Also, if you don't think you experience gender, perhaps look into agender discussions/communities and see if anything resonates. There's still a lot of diversity within that community, so I wouldn't worry much about whether your experiences match everyone's experiences. I've heard good things about The Gender Accelerationist Manifesto, but I've yet to read it. The pdf is 16 pages, but it seems like only the first 3 pages would be directly relevant to your question according to the table of contents.

[โ€“] blipblip@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

ty, this is very helpful