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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

We elected a black man president in 2008, then suddenly got too racist. Sure, that makes perfect sense. It couldn't possibly be the platforms the Democrats were running on. /s

[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I’m not sure if you’re replying to me but it doesn’t seem like you’re replying to what I said.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

We elected a black man president in 2008

Sort of. It's not like we elected James Brown.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's not like James Brown is likely to run in 2028, so what's your point?

The reason we have a fascist groundswell in this country is the same reason any country has ever had a fascist groundswell.

  1. Wealth inequality drives populism.
  2. Wealthy liberals shut out left populism.
  3. Right populism benefits and quickly turns fascist.
[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

My point is we elected the whitest black guy we could possibly find and even then it took 230 years. We still have a long way to go before we pat ourselves on the back.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

When did I suggest back pats?

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

We didn't "suddenly get too racist". The US was no more likely to elect a black presenting president in 2008 than we are now. Even one with Obama's gravitas.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. A minority candidate absolutely can win, as long as they can rally Democratic voters.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

I hope you're right but I have my doubts.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Holy fuck. Centrists are so goddamned desperate to run with their "we have to shut out AOC because the US is racist (until she's no longer a threat to our hegemony)" narrative that they're pretending Obama isn't Black.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I remember whites saying he was too black, poc saying he was too white, and leftists saying he's too corporate.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I remember centrists calling Bill Clinton the "first black president." Guess they don't want to give up the title.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 21 hours ago

Omg I don't remember that. The real oppression, amirite?! 🤦‍♀️