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I’m back! It’s been a while since I’ve been on this site because I’ve found myself under some financial trouble and I’ve been stressed BUT I wanted to take this opportunity to talk about something I love dearly: dihedral groups!

Consider the symmetries of a square:

We can see that there are 4 reflections and 3 rotations, as well as the act of doing nothing at all. Together, we have 8 total symmetries, and in fact, these are all of the possible symmetries. What this means is that if we do one of these symmetric moves and then do another one, we will have not changed the square, and therefore doing these two moves is the same as doing just one of the 8 symmetries on its own. For example, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a 180 degree rotation is the same as doing a 270 degree rotation. Also, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a reflection across the vertical axis is the same as doing a reflection across a diagonal axis.

So in other words, we can define a function that takes two symmetries of a square as input and which outputs another symmetry. Since standard multiplication is a function taking two numbers and outputting another number, it makes sense to borrow the notation of multiplication for this function. Our symmetry function satisfies a few useful properties:

  • Closure: As explained above, for any two symmetries, the function will spit out another symmetry
  • Identity: There is a symmetry (namely, the “do nothing” symmetry) such that when it is input into the function with another symmetry, the function will always simply output the other symmetry
  • Associativity: For any symmetries a, b, and c, (ab)c = a(bc)
  • Inverses: For every symmetry, there is a symmetry that undoes it. For example, rotating a square by 270 degrees undoes rotating it by 90 degrees, and doing a reflection a second time after doing it once undoes the first reflection

These 4 properties are so important that any set of objects with a function defined on it that satisfies all of these properties has a special name: they’re called groups and they’re really freaking awesome. The symmetries of a square as a group is called D~8~, since there are 8 total symmetries. Sometimes you might see it called D~4~, since squares have 4 sides, but I think this convention is a bit silly. In the same way, D~6~ is the symmetries of an equilateral triangle, D~10~ is the symmetries of a regular pentagon, and so forth. In general, D~2n~ is the symmetries of a regular n-gon.

Now, one interesting thing is that groups can contain each other. For example, consider an octagon. Since there are squares hidden within the points of octagons, if we pick a square we can see that all of the symmetries of that square are present in the symmetries of of the octagon, so it is possible to throw out all of the other symmetries. What we would be left with is just the symmetries of a square. What this means is that D~8~ is contained in D~16~. You can play similar games to show that there are lots of groups contained inside the dihedral groups.

The last thing I want to talk about regarding these things are their subgroup lattices. Oftentimes mathematicians want to picture the internal structure of a group. One of the ways they might do this is by writing down all of the subgroups of a group they’re studying onto a piece of paper, and then connecting any two with a line if one of them is a subgroup of the other that doesn’t have a subgroup between them. The resulting picture is called a subgroup lattice, and I’ve left some dihedral group lattices below because I think they’re pretty.

two cute dihedral subgroup lattices holding hands and cuddling

Anyway this has been gushposting with your host, yewler. Maybe next mega I might talk about more specific details that make these things cool.

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[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The more I hear people gush about it, the more I want to play the french JRPG, but I don't have 50$ to spend on a fucking video game doggirl-tears

[–] inTheShadowOf@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a fitgirl repack for it!

[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Is it difficult to do? I'm not great a computer things, but if there's straightforward instructions to follow it's probably fine doggirl-sweat

[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No Fitgirl is very simple. As long as you have a torrent client setup with a VPN to avoid getting a letter from your ISP, the actual repack install is just as easy as any other program.

[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't ever use torrents, but I'm sure I could figure it out

[–] other_platypus@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

one other option is the DDL links, I hear if you are ok doing a lot of clicking and have an adblocker you can get decent speeds from the fuckingfast.co links in the page too. I haven't heard of a single case of a VPN being necessary for DDL links

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's really easy! I'm not good at computer stuff but learning to torrent was surprisingly easy.

You'll probably need a VPN, I use Mozilla but that's a fiver per month. ProtonVPN is free and very easy to use.

Then you need a torrenting program, I use qBitTorrent. After that it's really simple, you just click download torrent or magnet (idk the difference) and you'll download fragments of the total file from other pirates.

If you keep qBitTorrent active in the background, it will also upload files that you want others to pirate, so you can give back to others. It's a cool system.

[–] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

The free version of ProtonVPN does not work with torrent clients, unfortunately. Very few free VPNs do, that's the main selling point to get you to pay them

[–] inTheShadowOf@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Tbh I've never personally used the site lol, but a lot of my friends do. I don't remember anyone mentioning issues before. Link to the repack if you wanna try it out

Maybe someone else could talk about setting it up? 😅