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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Im so confused how these keep happening without someone eventually whipping out an AR and popping nazi heads. I would never condone that of course 👀

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Because the gun nuts that you keep hearing about are either with them or on their side.

These are just regular folks they're rounding up

Regular folks go to work, pay their bills, pay taxes and are part of the community.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You shitting me? I've been waiting for these assholes to show up outside my bedroom window....

Free target practice!

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't think they know that?

Family in a car: easy target Dudes at work in a kitchen/construction: easy target 12 year old cancer patients: easy target

this is who they go after....

Real gang members? Cartel men? Nah....that would be like confronting a school shooter...and that ain't happening

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've got a penis and a prescription to estrogen, give it time, they'll show up.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 1 points 2 days ago

Fucking cheering you on from over here! Keep it up, you know the world has your back... eventually

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The typical ones maybe, but life is a game of statistics. With hundreds of these happening there should eventually be some crazy dude on the "right" side.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Be the first. See where it gets you. It's a death sentence to the person with the initiative and the people standing nearby with hardly any payoff and probably an increased military/police presence in the fallout.

Grand ideas alone can't fuel a revolution.

You misunderstand, i am not talking about people being logical or strategic.
Obviously nobody that is sane will do this, but the US is full of people that are not sane. At some point there should just be someone that has some sort of mental breakdown and stops giving a fuck.

[–] obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Then suddenly it's not okay to shoot anyone on your property and witb how ICE operates I see it as completely reasonable to shoot at unidentified masked men.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 5 points 3 days ago

I see this as well. Masked men in plain clothes with no ID taking people off the street? that's a gang.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 3 points 3 days ago

And then they get to enact Martial law. Which is what they're after anyway.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol you thought gun culture was about freedom!? You think gun nutters are going to put our government in check. Hell no! They will be working with ICE to execute people soon.

[–] SabinStargem 3 points 3 days ago

I become a gun nutter, on account of all this bullshit.

[–] Truscape@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

As a California native, it is incredibly difficult to get the kind of firearms that you see toted around in other states on social media, because of our state's gun laws.

There are alternative ways to get weapons like those, of course, but it's not very sustainable or comparable to something made by a proper gunsmith. Also getting your hands on ammunition in this state is both difficult and recorded at each transaction.

For those reasons, its unlikely to happen, as much as it pains me to say.

Of course, this changes quite a bit when people organize around this. But a lone wolf is not going to work well here.

[–] SabinStargem 5 points 3 days ago

I recommend the VR80 shotgun. It is available in California - 12 gauge, semi-auto, uses magazines, and apparently uninstalling a pin near the magazine catch can allow the magazine to be released like a non-compliant. When compliant with CA's restrictions, you can open the shotgun like a lever or split action, allowing the magazine to be removed. With a 9-rounder magazine, you can dole out quite a bit of hurt. Of course, you can go bigger if laws no longer apply.

The biggest issue with it, is that you need to shoot about 250ish rounds for the gun to loosen up - early on, it tends to have jamming. It should sing once you got in some practice. This shotgun is ambidextrous and patterned after an AR15, so you can attach assorted things to it, and readjust bits of it to suit yourself. I personally find the stock to be unergonomic, but again...if laws no longer apply, you can fix that.

Note, however, this shotgun requires a specialist technician for major repairs. It is something like a decade old, so that means the know-how is fairly rare. Aside from that, it is easy to care for everyday usage, like most shotguns.

I am debating what type of ammo to use with mine as standard. I want to be able to hit drones, while still being able to melt some armored ICE by hitting limbs. Probably a 000 load, since a militia realistically wouldn't want to be too close to receive accurate fire. It will take me a couple months to figure out what is the right ammo for me.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

While you can't purchase a gun out of state you can purchase ammo out of state.

Or at least to the best of my knowledge. Many states only want to know if you're 18 before selling you ammo, effectively meaning no ID checks

[–] Truscape@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Moment you cross the state border back, you gotta declare it, forfeit it, or try to smuggle it. Legislators thought of that, same with importing guns.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait... There's border checks between states or something?

[–] Truscape@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

With very few exceptions, California doesn't grandfather equipment into new gun regulations. The presumption is if you possess ammunition/guns that aren't on prior sale records (IE: out of state purchase), you need to declare and possibly surrender them.

Given that all in-state transactions are recorded (as I mentioned in my prior comment), if any LEO found ammo or guns in your car trunk along a state line, you're cooked.

Not guaranteed to happen, but certainly not risk free.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Imports have to through a FFL in most states anyway, but interesting they were able to apply that to ammo too.