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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Hahah, lemme tell you this... there's a difference between nationalism necessarily birthed,

under backdrop of oppressed masses of Imperialism

(eg. Vietnamese nationalism truly developed under France, with the destruction of local Vietnamese feudal economy to pave away for imperial capitalist exploitation of land and labor; to make plantations and industry, dependent on building the French imperial economy)

and one under the backdrop of 'oppressed' Americans wanting their share of the pie; stolen Indigenous land and African slaves

(eg. American nationalism, who wanted independence from Britain, mainly due to the British trying to restrict their land expansion, worries of the British restricting slavery, and overall British empire co-optation of settler-colonial political economy)

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

One of the most eye opening things was reading Zinn and seeing Britain, the OG great Satan, tell the settlers “that’s evil, even for me.”

[–] CorruptedArk@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Rightfully so imo, the US has committed genocide and slavery on a massive scale and is actively aiding a genocide as we speak

[–] CorruptedArk@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I understand and agree with you

But I don't just pay attention to what a group says, I care about material impact

Organizing labor against the American bourgeois weakens the hold of the American bourgeois, which in turn is good for the nations oppressed by the empire