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[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] YaBoyMax@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Online CCP apologist starter pack right here.

[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Bro, all they did was give you info on the historic stance of the UN, on Taiwan. Is the whole United Nations a "CCP shill" too?

[–] Clever_Clover@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

yes, obviously the UN and WHO are controlled by the evil see see pee

[–] YaBoyMax@programming.dev -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean, you're not that far off given the PRC's permanent seat on the UN's security council, but you know full well that most states and the WHO have a vested financial interest in not pissing off the CCP.

[–] Clever_Clover@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

uh, buddy, you're aware the US has that too right? like, by your own logic the chinese cannot control the UN any more than the US can, and I'm purely using what you've said, no other needed information about the history of what the UN says and sides most of the time with needed.

[–] YaBoyMax@programming.dev -1 points 10 months ago

I was poking fun at your sarcastic comment; I don't genuinely believe that China nor the US controls the UN any more (or any less) than their role in the geopolitical landscape would dictate.

[–] YaBoyMax@programming.dev 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The obvious intention is to somehow "prove" that Taiwan is a part of the PRC. It's a really common tactic by people trying to push the CCP's worldview.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

...including UN stenographers from 50 years ago, apparently.

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

glasses-off Online CCP apologist starter pack right here.

glasses-on wahhh reality doesn't line up with what i believe in

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"CCP apologist" lol so what. We live in a whole world of countries and ideologies you can't just expect everyone to talk like Americans

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

CCP apologist" lol so what.

I object to the term because the CPC has nothing to apologize for.

[–] YaBoyMax@programming.dev -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, but this type of rhetoric goes hand in hand with Chinese nationalism and I frankly detest nationalism in any form. It spurs non-constructive, bad-faith discourse and in more extreme cases leads to literal genocide. Nazi Germany, present-day Israel, the Xinjiang province... The list goes on and on.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Didn't you get the memo that it's now a "cultural genocide" in Xinjiang because the feds who constructed the worldview you are spoonfed realized a narrative of "literal genocide" was rhetorically unable to cope with the lack of evidence?

[–] YaBoyMax@programming.dev -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

There are firsthand accounts of human rights abuses taking place against the Uyghur people on Xinjiang. The Chinese fucking government reported a 60% decline in birthrates in certain Uyghur-majority regions in the province between 2015 and 2018. If that doesn't scream forced sterilization then I don't know what does.

Also, cultural genocide is still genocide definitionally.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

Oh now we're all the way down to human rights abuses? One comment ago it was genocide...thinkin-lenin

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Show me the pictures dude. The genocide’s been going on for decades and western tourists have been free to visit Xinjiang during that period, so it should be easy to find Gaza-style devastation there, right?

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Also, cultural genocide is still genocide definitionally.

Not according to the Western diplomats who argued against cultural genocide being included in the UN Genocide Convention but... Go off?

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

There are firsthand accounts of human rights abuses taking place against the Uyghur people on Xinjiang.

There are first hand accounts of human rights abuses taking place against Chinese people in the USA, I guess America is genociding the Chinese.

he Chinese fucking government reported a 60% decline in birthrates in certain Uyghur-majority regions in the province between 2015 and 2018. If that doesn't scream forced sterilization then I don't know what does.

Imagine trying to make this argument in a serious court.

[–] GorbinOutOverHere@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

wow you really are so brainwashed that literally nothing could change your mind because you aggressively seek to ignore reality when it doesn't match up with what you think you know

[–] YaBoyMax@programming.dev -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] GorbinOutOverHere@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

China: agrees that taiwan is part of china

U.S.: agrees that taiwan is part of china

Taiwan: agrees that taiwan is part of china

You: STOP CCP I DIDN'T CONSENT 😭😭😭😭😭

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

[–] Flaps@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

How do you want people here to take you seriously when this is how you react to someone providing extra info regarding the UNs position when it comes to Taiwan