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The former president fired off a series of potentially defamatory statements as he arrived in court

As he arrived at a federal courthouse in lower Manhattan, Donald Trump’s Truth Social account released an avalanche of posts attacking E Jean Carroll, who is suing the former president for defamation.

A jury in New York City will determine what damages he owes Ms Carroll, whom Mr Trump defamed by repeatedly calling her a liar and denying that he sexually assaulted her.

It’s the second trial stemming from defamation claims brought by Ms Caroll, and a jury already found him civilly responsible for sexually abusing her in the 1990s. He continues to claim that he never met her and has repeatedly mocked and ridiculed Ms Carroll in the wake of that verdict.

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[–] carbonprop@lemmy.ca 44 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It would be amazing if the jury said jail time would be more effective than another monetary settlement. Fingers crossed.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I don't think they have that ability.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 22 points 10 months ago

Just treat him like he was black. Charge him with contempt for anything, the way he is breathing is too loud, and set the bail for more than he can afford. $1.5 trillion?

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They don't have that ability in a civil trial, but could they say that? Something like "Here's the incredibly large amount of compensatory and punitive damages, which we still do not believe will suffice to prevent Trump from repeating this behavior. We believe that only detention will be successful in putting an end to this continuing defamation."

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

Even then. I believe they're given a form letter and all they're allowed to do is fill in the blanks. At least that's what happened the one time I was on a jury.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I suppose, but I doubt it would help.

[–] carbonprop@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I guess the only hope now is to try and bankrupt him…again

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well when one is a professional Loser like Trunp, another bankruptcy is no big deal. It's par for the course.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Bankruptcy is just another part of the scheme.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, they can say it. It would be pretty funny.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure, why not? I'm just saying it won't actually put him behind bars.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Now I'm picturing an SNL-type sketch where the judge is the "this isn't how any of this works" geico lady, and the jury insists that jail is best.

Of course Trump's lawyers would try to help, but make it worse. And the plaintiff's lawyers are just eating popcorn.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would imagine it would have been much harder for his Loser routine if there was still a debtor's prison. It wouldn't be a standard way for him to do business.

With how many things he's failed at and in a big way involving investors, customers, regulators, and the courts, it's been amazing how he's been able to get his hooks into the country. Celebrity truly is king in America.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

All it took was repeating bald faced lies about his business acumen on TV for a handful of years. Before apprentice, he was universally seen as the piece of shit that he is. So much so that he's basically the archetype of almost every movie villain from the 80s and 90s.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Just start calling in the new jury on the campaign finance violations he's about to commit the second he has to pay the settlement. Those carry actual jail time.

[–] jeremyparker@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Money is the only thing he cares about. Keep the fines going up. We can call it the Trumping Point: the amount of money required to make a billionaire understand consequences. Then future fines to other billionaires can just start there.

For real though, imagine the orange apoplexy if he lost all his wealth.

[–] saintshenanigans@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago

Honestly, this is the entire point of fines though. We need a system where fines are determined by your tax bracket or something, it shouldn't be "ahh I can do whatever I want until the fines get close to $X million" it should be an immediate "oh i fucked up"

Otherwise, fines are just the cost of doing business.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Spin up a website tracking the numbers.