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[–] LodeMike 73 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Hi. Not a pornstar here. Being a pornstar [professionally] isn’t really fun.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 33 points 8 months ago

They also say money can't buy happiness, and my answer is the same: I'd like the opportunity to prove that to myself, thankyouverymuch.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Is it fun to make sweeping statements on the internet about things you have no first hand experience with? Yes, yes it is.

[–] LodeMike 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That’s why I said I wasn’t a pornstar.

the president should not commit crimes

is it fun to make sweeping statements on jr internet anojt things you have no firsthand experience with? Yes, yes it is.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

that analogy doesn't work. your first statement was "is" your second was "should". this is an interesting example of an is/ought confusion.

if one had said "the president does not commit crimes! never met him btw" the response would be a lot more reasonable, wouldn't it?

of course anyone xan make ought statements about anything. you didnt. you said it wasnt fun as if it were a fact. disclaiming your ignorance is fine but not really an excuse. but hey, I dont know anything about you, yet I think you're a turd swallowing ninny monger!!

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

How would you know?

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 75 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I am not the parent commenter.

Apparently, the process of filming pornography is really messy, arduous, starts to smell bad quickly, and many of the positions are uncomfortable. Not to mention the fact that many scenes need re-takes. That's just the reality of filmmaking.

It's also quite awkward to have a director and camera crew staring at you the whole time and giving you instructions.

I read this on an AskReddit thread.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 70 points 8 months ago (3 children)

On top of that there is a loooooot of shady shit going on.

Drugs. Lots of drugs. All of them. All at once.

Jerks getting on blacklists just to circumvent them and end up on stage again just to beat the shit out of another actor/actress. There is a good chance that you unknowingly watched rape at some point.

You get persuaded a lot as a porn star. To fuck people you don’t wanna fuck with, to do things you don’t wanna do.

And then there are the fans, oh boy. Imagine being the target of a troll campaign and the trolls have literally terabytes of ammunition against you. They get really disgusting and you get harassed online and in RL all the time.

If you somehow have a family life going on, they will also be targeted by that shit. Retired porn actresses want to have children but they can’t, because they don’t want their kids to live through that hell.

Luckily not a porn star myself. Just read a ton of AMAs and articles on the subject. The more you inform yourself about what’s going on behind the scenes, the less you actually want to watch porn. It’s a mood killer to say the least.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is a good chance that you unknowingly watched rape at some point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GirlsDoPorn

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Twilight. My brain was violated

[–] H4rdStyl3z@lemmy.ml 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's a major reason why I only watch independent sex worker stuff now. And even then you can't be 100% sure...

[–] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, wasn't there a thing with Amaranth's husband abusing her and forcing her to stream?

Guess only doujinshi are safe...

[–] lenathaw@lemmy.ml 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hentai is the only ethical form of porn consumption

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Some hentai genres beg to differ

[–] norbert@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

They can beg all they want, in fact I hope they do.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

if it isn't crunched like many anime are.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like stuff from naughtymachinima, lots of 3D stuff for that extra dimension

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

some porn uses insane simulation physics which are rarely used anywhere else, and i fucking love it.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

Once they get proper sticky goo physics mastered, it'll be perfection

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

2d means no consent necessary and no worries beyond artist mistreatment or underpayment by the publisher.

Which is a molehill compared to the mountain of issues in the actual sex work industry.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

2d? Is that like a genre I can avoid or something?

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sure, just opt away from anything that's created by artists and you're good.

However I was specifically positing an option outside of the sex work industry that doesn't have a significant history of drug abuse, sexual abuse, worker abuse, and overall unhealthy precedents.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh you meant 2D as in illustration

[–] arken@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Were you imagining Paper Mario-style pornography? With real people somehow made to look flat?

[–] Aremel@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Not the person you're replying to, but I too was confused. I thought it had something to do with some sort of contract known as "2d" in the industry because the d wasn't capitalized, as in 2D.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So no different than Hollywood then?

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

I want to disagree, but somehow I can’t.

[–] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

Not to mention the number of cases of abuse behind the scenes in that industry...

[–] LodeMike 3 points 8 months ago

What this guy said

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

There are some minidocumentaries and interviews on the subject. On top of surgery and drug use being basically required, it's not a career you can work in for more than a few years for most and comes with various health complications. Plus, once it's out there on the internet it's harder to pursue any other career with a public image.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Its a classic "if you're in the top 1% of the industry its pretty great, but shit for everyone else".

You could say the same thing about NFL linemen or professional musicians. Spending half your life to develop a talent into something people will pay to witness, getting maybe two to five good years out of it if you're lucky, and then retreating back to the low-skill service sector once you've destroyed your body.

Also, lots and lots of drug use and managers/owners who will exploit the fuck out of your few good years. And a disturbingly high rate of physical and sexual assault to keep the gears of industry turning profitably.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Even many of the top performers have told some absolutely horrendous stories, so even if it's great for a time they've probably had to wade through more shit than the average porn star. Alongside this, even many of the best stars might have only been active for a small period of time, but have pumped out dozens/hundreds of films.

I've known some people that have got involved with sex work, some working on professional shoots/films, and while it was a very protected industry at times, they've told some nasty stories of in-dating, jealousy/sabotage, pressure to do work in camming alongside, and nudes they've sent to agents being leaked online without consent. Even the less grim parts, like a studio pairing two girls that had never met before, telling them to drive 2 hours to a set, and within 2-3 minutes having them shoot together, is all crazy to me.

With that being said, one girl I used to work with got involved with porn, and she seems to have loved it. She went from few career prospects to driving a BMW and having enough money to buy a house and seem financially stable. I guess it varies person-to-person.

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Being a legal prostitute isn't fun?

Who knew!