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Image is of Cuba's National People's Power Assembly.


The most recent geopolitical news around Cuba is the arrival this week of four Russian vessels, including a nuclear submarine - not carrying any nukes, (un)fortunately - to Havana. This will, in Putin's words, merely be a visit celebrating historical ties and no laws are being broken. Nonetheless, it's not hard to imagine how American politicians and analysts are taking the news, especially as it comes shortly after Russia promised an "asymmetrical" response to further NATO involvement in Ukraine (notably, officially allowing the use of US weapons such as missiles in Russia, albeit in a small part of Russian territory, near the border).

Meanwhile, China has been increasingly co-operating with Cuba to overcome the economic hardship created by American sanctions. China has recently re-allowed direct flights to Cuba and has recently donated some small photovoltaic plants as part of an initiative to eventually boost the Cuban energy grid by 1000 MW - and any electrical expansion helps as Cuba is plagued by blackouts which last most of the day. Additionally, the EU has made meaningful contributions to Cuba's energy situation too, with large solar installations. Hopefully, the Belt and Road Initiative will help preserve the Cuban revolution against reactionary forces as the power of US sanctions wanes. The proximity of Cuba to the United States makes this much more challenging than it would be for countries elsewhere, however. Similarly to the situation in Mexico, it seems unlikely that the US's influence over Cuba will massively diminish for decades to come unless there is a catastrophic internal collapse in the American authoritarian regime.

The Havana Syndrome will continue until American morale declines.


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https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
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https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
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https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 74 points 2 weeks ago

We having another cuban missile crisis? Why are there 4 russian warships and a US submarine in Cuba right now?

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 51 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty sure this is retaliation because the US and the UK allowed Ukraine to hit targets inside Russia. Russia had attempt to pressure the West into telling Ukraine to fuck off, by putting nuclear weapons inside Belarus. That didn't work because the US doesn't care if Russia nukes Berlin or Paris. With Cuba is a different story, they can easily hit Florida and Washington DC.

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 47 points 2 weeks ago

they can easily hit Florida and Washington DC

sicko-flipped

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 52 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty sure taht during the cold war, the CIA had planned to bomb cities around Florida to blame it on Cuba. In an attempt to gain public support to invade Cuba.

[-] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 62 points 2 weeks ago

Operation Northwoods, thankfully jfk shut it down (and proceeded to live a long healthy life)

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Diez-Canel plz

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 41 points 2 weeks ago

Right but are they actually transferring anything there or just jollying around in their boats? If it's just a jolly then it can be ignored but it's hard to tell.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago

It’s absolutely not transferring anything, they’ve made this clear

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago

Personally I’m convinced it’s just posturing

[-] Droplet@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

I still don’t understand why Cuba chose to host the Russian Navy. Are they trying to upset the US and invite more sanctions against them?

Or were they blackmailed by the Russians: if you don’t let us park our warships at your shores, we will not send you food and oil?

Putin is playing a dangerous game here and I don’t see how this could contribute to de-escalation from a nuclear war.

[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 53 points 2 weeks ago

The US has showed absolutely no signs of lessening the sanctions against Cuba. If anything deepening their relationship with Russia could ease a lot of their economic problems, as Russia has created parallel trade systems that avoid sanctions and the dollar. Russia actually began to cut Cuba off and abandon them before the overthrow of the soviet union, as an attempt at appeasing and winning the approval of the empire. Now that Russia has cast off any illusion of US support or cooperation, building a relationship to Cuba is desirable again. Cuba loses nothing, but stands to gain a lot

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago

an attempt at appeasing and winning the approval of the empire

I swear to god Gorbachev was such a pathetic little worm. Apparently he once wrote a letter to the US state dept where he asked “what kind of government would like us to have?” And the US just never responded.

Only time I’ll ever give even a little bit of credit to the US government, you shouldn’t respond to such a weakling.

[-] Ocommie63@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago

Glad he’s dead

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Regionally Cuba and Venezuela are both geographically threatening positions to the US. If I were Russia I'd be very very interested in making relationships with them that surpass the relationships the US has with all the nato countries.

If it were me I'd be considering an anti-american alliance. Like nato was designed specifically to counter the Soviets an alliance specifically to counter the US, put bases all around it. Encircle them like they have done to foreign adversaries for so long.

If this naval expedition stops in Venezuela too then something is up along those lines.

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Presidente Sheinbaum, tienes la oportunidad de hacer algo divertido

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago

I still don’t understand why Cuba chose to host the Russian Navy. Are they trying to upset the US and invite more sanctions against them?

They greeted them with a 21 gun salute. Seems like a very loud and friendly welcome if you don't consider them your friends.

[-] Droplet@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah I can see that, I just feel like Cuba always get caught between great power struggles who are recklessly waving their guns around with real potential of sparking a nuclear war.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

It's not that Cuba 'get's caught between great power struggles', they understand that their countries history is one long anti-colonial struggle, and you either figure out how to play ball, or you will soon find yourself as the bases.

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

This isn’t escalation by Russia it’s tit for tat because Ukraine has destroyed some nuclear detection radars in Russia and America has given Ukraine permission to attack Russia with American f16s which Russia has said they consider nuclear capable. Destroying the radar is exactly what you would do before committing to a nuclear attack.

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

The US has its nukes on everyone's borders, floats its ships through their waters, flies through their airspace. This is not an escalation. Allied nations send vessels through one another's ports all the time. Russia does this regularly. This moment is intense so it is getting attention and there is a case for not doing it, but it is not escalation. Keep in mind the DPRK has had submarines go to Cuba in the past 20 years.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

That was real? I saw that movie. Thought it was bullshit.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Lol yes the cuban missile crisis was a very real event. At the request of Castro the Soviets put nukes in Cuba after the Bay of Pigs invasion (US invaded Cuba and got its shit kicked in) to deter further harassment.

This created a 60 day crisis that ended when the US and Soviets struck a deal, the Soviets would remove their missiles from Cuba in exchange for the US removing their missiles from Turkey, the latter part of the deal was to be kept secret though because America can never look weak.

Either way it kinda worked to deter harassment. US hasn't fucked with Cuba since other than sanctions and trying to get a colour revolution to happen, which is better than physically invading them.

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago

The Soviets also had credible intel that pointed to, after getting their asses whupped at the Bay of Pigs, the US was starting to plan a for real large scale actual US military invasion of Cuba.

[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago
[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 46 points 2 weeks ago

Killing hope, by william blum

the US was marshalling massive naval forces around the carribean and practicing amphibious invasions of cuba. the US was going to directly intervene and crush the cuban revolution if the soviets didn't step in.

[-] HexBroke@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago

Just listen to season 2 of Blowback

Also goes into the Berlin issue and nukes the US stationed in Turkiye

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

whispers he was making a reference to a silly Italian show about soap operas, soap pianos, or something

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

Oh ignore me then I don't know it lol.

[-] Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

Haha pretending to be ignorant is so funny

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

Xmen first class was a documentary

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago

Diez-Canel had a craving for blinis

[-] Droplet@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago

Will the American Vasily Arkhipov make the right call this time?

Fun fact: Denzel Washington played this character in the American rendition of this incident in Crimson Tide.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

I really hope so. With the boats already in cuban ports the good guys are like 90% winning.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

(chanting) THEN AS FARCE! THEN AS FARCE! sicko-speeeeen

[-] Ocommie63@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago

First as tragedy then as farce

[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago
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