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I'm going to go ahead and post my hot take: I hate that these people are facing eviction and that they're faced with crippling medical debt caused by chronic illness and frequent hospitalization. I don't like these people. I don't agree with their beliefs. I think Kyle Rittenhouse did something unforgivably terrible and that his family likely enabled him and his actions. But I also don't want them to be homeless or to have to deal with medical debt, because those are things that I believe our society should guarantee, as inalienable rights, that no one, regardless of how odious they or their family might be, should have to endure. And I don't care that they (probably) believe differently.
This is what separates people like us from people like them: empathy
I think what people believe is more a matter of environment, exposure, and upbringing. The Rittenhouses are victims of an ideology that they internalized because they were, in some very real way, made to internalize it. It doesn't benefit them and it exists purely to support systems of power that actively disenfranchise them and people like them. And "our" ideologies, however similar or different your beliefs and mine might be, are just as much a product of environment and conditioning. I'm not entirely sure I can draw the exact line where a society's failure of its own people stops and personal accountability begins when it's tied so intimately to how an individual believes the world is and should be.
I think you’re right. I also think that’s the real reason some conservatives hate college and cities. Living in close proximity to others exposes you to different perspectives, and (hopefully) teaches you that other points of view aren’t automatically wrong. Different isn’t necessarily bad. Your parents, and the values you grew up with, don't have the solution to everything. Lines are much harder to draw.
The liberal urge to donate to people who are literally and unapologetically trying to fucking shoot you
Okay, I did laugh, but I have to point out that there are people caught in the middle. A lot of folks, no how loudly they yell, or how many flags they burn on TV, don’t actually want to kill anybody. They just want to live. They just want to take care of their families. That’s who liberals are trying to help.
Us vs them... At least we can all agree on othering people we disagree with
I don’t like it either, but pretending differences don’t exist won’t make those differences go away.
People we disagree with isn't the same as people who lack a quality that's necessary for society. That's not a disagreement
Thank you. I couldn’t quite nail down what was fundamentally bothering me about that statement, but you did it for me!
Honestly, same here. I despise what they enabled, and continue to enable. I also despise that they're facing homelessness and serious healthcare issues because nobody should have to face that, regardless of how repugnant I might find their beliefs and actions. I honestly hope that they manage to get out from under this and continue to live long, healthy, and happy lives, because I believe that everyone SHOULD have these things.
This is the best response I've seen.
I'm not as good a person as you, and I'm sorry. I accept them losing their house as long as it's to someone better. Odds are that's happening.