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What happens to the election if Biden dies before it?

  • With considerable time til the election
  • Not enough time to change the election

Assuming Biden wins on election day, what is the procedure at various stages throughout the election if Biden dies?

  • After election day but before votes are counted
  • Votes counted but not certified by Congress
  • Certified but not inaugurated
  • Any other stages I've missed
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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 79 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I'm just going to point out that trump is only 3 years younger, and has far more risk factors for heart attack and strokes.

Why does everyone seem to think Biden is the one who will die first.

[–] Tramort@programming.dev 69 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Because if Trump dies then we have a lot less to worry about

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

We have less immediate issues on that front, but we still got some work to do

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Because if Trump dies then we have a lot less to worry about

Only because I think Biden can take Ms Haley in an election. (You forgot she won a single primary, right?)

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why does everyone seem to think Biden is the one who will die first.

because we recently saw them in televised debate and one of them looked in significantly worse shape than the other.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just goes to show how little people know about how people die.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

yeah, nobody knows. but (un)fortunately "he isn't able to put together coherent sentence, but maybe he isn't going to die tomorrow" is not qualification for presidential office.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I did not take him as in worst shape. I saw a person who couldn't believe the bullshit being said by a narcissistic moron. I would have the same look at my face in disbelief if I had to debate with someone that I thought still asked for crayons at a restaurant.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I saw a person who couldn’t believe the bullshit being said by a narcissistic moron. I would have the same look at my face in disbelief

that's really not an argument in biden's favor.

he had known trump for at least 9 years and he had been lying narcissistic moron that whole time. if he didn't expect the most expectable thing in the world from him, and being surprised threw him off the rails in such manner that he wasn't able to put together coherent sentence, how is he qualified for a job where there are actual surprises of enormous consequences on a daily basis?

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My grandmother lived with dementia for 20 years before dying at 101.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

good for her. i assume she didn't run for a president.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

TBH because of his physical presentation at the debate. Yeah, it’s short-sighted, but welcome to the public thought process. Whatever is churned thru the latest 15 minute media cycle seems to be what they believe.

Doesn’t matter if he had a cold and was dosed up on NyQuil or whatever; his voice was weak, he stumbled over making coherent sentence multiple times, and he just had a blank, open-mouthed stare when between questions. I’ve had shitty colds and been drugged up with cold meds and I know that feel of being sore, exhausted, hoarse, and disconnected. You just want to go have a lie-down, not a public debate against a raging, insulting, narcissistic asshole. But it takes someone willing to understand all that and give Biden the benefit of the doubt.

There are far too many that start from the “old” part and just attribute everything possible to that which they find disagreeable.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

his voice was weak, he stumbled over making coherent sentence multiple times, and he just had a blank, open-mouthed stare when between questions.

And apparently that matters more than the blatant lies and non-answers coming from the other side. Gotta say, Americans do seem significantly dumber than the average world citizen.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Gotta say, Americans do seem significantly dumber than the average world citizen.

Presumably what an American once said about Germans. It can happen anywhere with the right stream of propaganda.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

And is actively happening. Sadly, most people will choose comfortable lies over hard truths.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

And apparently that matters more than the blatant lies and non-answers coming from the other side.

yes, for estimating whether someone dies due to health condition, that health condition matters significantly more than someone else lying. 😜

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump is 3 years younger. Biden may outlive him by 10 years for all we know.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

he may. but the last debate strongly suggested otherwise. someone asked why do people think that biden will be first to die and this is why. because he seem in significantly worse shape.

he looked like he was going to die before the debate ends. i absolutely don't believe that, if elected, he will survive whole term.

(and that is ignoring the fact that having a pulse is quite low threshold for presidential candidate)

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't know about you, but I vote for policy, not a person. But you do what a lot of Americans do, vote for a personality, and that's why Americans seem significantly dumber than the average world citizen.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i am not an american, but i can confirm for you that you seem significantly dumb to me.

if you see an error in any fact i stated, please point it out. i can't do anything about your emotions...

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Your error: Voting for a person, not policy. There.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

i meant error in facts, not your inability to understand topic of the discussion (this isn't discussion about policy), or the fact that i am not an american, so i am not voting for anything in us elections.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Did he have a cold, and cold medicine? I've not heard those things.

[–] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Groups have been trying to push this message since the debate. It's not terribly effective for anyone who actually watched.

A cold and cold medicine don't account for the very clear confusion and sundowning the rest of us witnessed.

[–] craigers@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because Trump now thinks he has full immunity to assassinate his political rivals

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 4 months ago

Let's not hope both take a stroll on 5th avenue at the same time.

[–] statist43@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago

Full immunity to disease too he supposes, while injecting desinfectant and thinking about his triumph

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Let's look at oldest mainline Presidential nominees in history:

  1. Biden - 2024 (81)
  2. Trump - 2024 (78)
  3. Biden - 2020 (77)
  4. Trump - 2020 (74)
  5. Reagan - 1984 (73)
  6. Trump - 2016 (70)
  7. Reagan - 1980 (69)

Next President who was elected was William Henry Harrison, but we're getting "young" enough there may be unelected nominees I'm not aware of.

Also: fun fact. Jimmy Carter's post-presidency lifespan has been over 43 years so far, while Teddy Roosevelt was only 42 when elected Predident.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

so far

Thank you for being generous.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I really want him to make it to October 1st and become the first one to break 100.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

There are so many more eyecatching things wrong with Trump, so his age never gets brought up. Biden mostly just has his age and the Israel situation, so those are the two things you hear about the most.