I'm surprised the CIA doesn't know the answer to this, so they have to come to lemmy to ask
Some times you want somebody to double check your work before you turn it in
I'm just going to point out that trump is only 3 years younger, and has far more risk factors for heart attack and strokes.
Why does everyone seem to think Biden is the one who will die first.
Because if Trump dies then we have a lot less to worry about
We have less immediate issues on that front, but we still got some work to do
Because if Trump dies then we have a lot less to worry about
Only because I think Biden can take Ms Haley in an election. (You forgot she won a single primary, right?)
Because Trump now thinks he has full immunity to assassinate his political rivals
Let's not hope both take a stroll on 5th avenue at the same time.
Full immunity to disease too he supposes, while injecting desinfectant and thinking about his triumph
Why does everyone seem to think Biden is the one who will die first.
because we recently saw them in televised debate and one of them looked in significantly worse shape than the other.
Just goes to show how little people know about how people die.
yeah, nobody knows. but (un)fortunately "he isn't able to put together coherent sentence, but maybe he isn't going to die tomorrow" is not qualification for presidential office.
My grandmother lived with dementia for 20 years before dying at 101.
good for her. i assume she didn't run for a president.
Let's look at oldest mainline Presidential nominees in history:
Next President who was elected was William Henry Harrison, but we're getting "young" enough there may be unelected nominees I'm not aware of.
Also: fun fact. Jimmy Carter's post-presidency lifespan has been over 43 years so far, while Teddy Roosevelt was only 42 when elected Predident.
so far
Thank you for being generous.
I really want him to make it to October 1st and become the first one to break 100.
TBH because of his physical presentation at the debate. Yeah, it’s short-sighted, but welcome to the public thought process. Whatever is churned thru the latest 15 minute media cycle seems to be what they believe.
Doesn’t matter if he had a cold and was dosed up on NyQuil or whatever; his voice was weak, he stumbled over making coherent sentence multiple times, and he just had a blank, open-mouthed stare when between questions. I’ve had shitty colds and been drugged up with cold meds and I know that feel of being sore, exhausted, hoarse, and disconnected. You just want to go have a lie-down, not a public debate against a raging, insulting, narcissistic asshole. But it takes someone willing to understand all that and give Biden the benefit of the doubt.
There are far too many that start from the “old” part and just attribute everything possible to that which they find disagreeable.
his voice was weak, he stumbled over making coherent sentence multiple times, and he just had a blank, open-mouthed stare when between questions.
And apparently that matters more than the blatant lies and non-answers coming from the other side. Gotta say, Americans do seem significantly dumber than the average world citizen.
Gotta say, Americans do seem significantly dumber than the average world citizen.
Presumably what an American once said about Germans. It can happen anywhere with the right stream of propaganda.
And is actively happening. Sadly, most people will choose comfortable lies over hard truths.
There are so many more eyecatching things wrong with Trump, so his age never gets brought up. Biden mostly just has his age and the Israel situation, so those are the two things you hear about the most.
amendment 20, section 3. the vice president-elect gets inaugurated
And the 25th regarding death and disability, depending on when he kicks off. For those interested in learning more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
I think it'd also count as a full term in office so far as the rule against running more than twice goes. So you could run for reelection, but that isn't a "one werid trick" to getting three terms in office.
it's a two-term limit with a 10-year maximum. if the vice president gets called up 23 months before the end of the president's term, they could potentially successfully serve two and a half full terms
Also consider what happens if Trump dies at any of these stages - he's almost the same age so all else being equal he's almost as likely to die during the same period
One definitely seemed more likely to die than the other 😂
I wonder if anyone is taking bets on who will croak first? Like Vegas for example
I got $20 on trump dies first. All that McDonalds is going to add up.
plus, he's definitely taking an adhd stimulant since Fox News et al. has been accusing Biden of doing that.
That's definitely going to put a strain on his heart.
Someone needs to hire a lot of porn stars for him, see if they can get him excited enough to have a massive heart attack. Maybe hire a lot of women that look like his daughter?
Evil motherfuckers tend to live forever, unfortunately. It's the pure concentrated hate that sustains them.
The Vice President-Elect is sworn in instead. This is covered by section 3 of the 20th amendment.
Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President-elect shall have died, the Vice President-elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President-elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President-elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President-elect nor a Vice President-elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
There's actually a novel that describes the process and it actually depends on when it happens.
If Biden wins the election, but dies before the electoral college votes, it's a free-for-all. The electoral college can vote for whoever they want.
If he dies AFTER the EC vote, but before it's certified, there's a different set of problems.
If he dies after the vote and the certification, the VP becomes President.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People%27s_Choice_(novel)
If Biden wins the election, but dies before the electoral college votes, it’s a free-for-all. The electoral college can vote for whoever they want.
This is unclear. Some states have laws that say that electors must vote for who they're pledged to vote for.
President Harris and Vice President Jefferies
Anything else means instant constitutional crisis, but at the same time, we'll be able hear the explosions from space as right winger minds absorb that circumstance has brought about the first female president and also the first PoC President Vice President team.
If Kamala was good at trolling she'd not nominate any white people to the cabinet so we can all enjoy fox pundits trying to find the magic combination of words that let them be mad about an all PoC cabinet without it being racist, but I'm pretty sure she's at least going to keep Buttigieg on as Transit Czar since he's been going at least hard enough to get HSR moving finally between LA and Vegas.
jimmy carter will out live both mark my words
Additional question. If the Vice President takes over and becomes President, do they finish the full term or are they just interim president until a new election can take place?
They finish the current term and appoint a new VP. The election calendar doesn't change
See inside what? Did you link to anything?
As I see it, key deadlines are:
The party conventions, where each parties nominee will be formalized. (But recall that the actual Democratic Nomination will be done before the convention, to meet some State deadlines).
The election itself, where voters choose which slate of electors cast EC votes.
The electoral college election that really matters.
The counting of the EC Votes
the inauguration
Once the nominations are formalized, they probably can't be undone, since there are State deadlines involved.
But always remember that people are not voting for the candidates themselves, but for a slate of electors. And while the expectation is for these electors to vote for the ticket they were pledged to, if one candidate is subject to God's Almighty Recall Vote, they appear to have the discretion to file votes differently.
Once the EC votes are cast, though, there would probably be no choice but to accept them. (Congress recently revamped the counting process to eliminate some of the shenanigans that happened last time). I expect that if either one croaks after that, they would probably just inaugurate the VP on the ticket directly.
(Edited to add: states may be able to change EC votes after the December EC election. That date is based on a "safe harbor" deadline which makes EC votes harder to challenge. So, if the winning candidate bites it on Christmas Day there's probably a way for State Legislatures to certify new EC votes before Congress counts them Jan 6, but we should expect a challenge to that.)
(It would suck if Trump won, and Biden croaked on Jan 19th. We might have our first female President, for one day.)
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