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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 86 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I love all the long waiting and useless messages that comes with it, too.

  • Preparing to download.
  • Downloading. useless progress percentage
  • Preparing to install.
  • Installing. more useless progress percentage
  • Please do not turn off your computer.
  • "Hi".
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don’t forget when the update stage actually reads 100%, which makes no logical sense because if the stage was at 100%, you wouldn’t still be telling me we are processing it as the current stage.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Somehow Windows struggles with file i/o and always has been. When copying stuff to floppy disks in Win 3 or 95 the progress bar steadily grew to 100% and since floppies were loud, you could hear that the actual copying only started then and you had to wait longer staring at 100% than the progress bar before.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You just gave me a nostalgia bomb of copying files on Win98/XP and watching the little files fly from one folder to the other for 5 minutes after the progress bar filled up.

I miss little animations like that, makes me wish there were more fun little things in OS UIs these days. Now everything is just a bar and a number.

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[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Yup that one really pisses me off.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

meanwhile updates on linux telling me exactly what is happening in real time, working completely in the background, and politely informing me that i may wish to reboot to apply all the updates properly

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Windows: Imma let you finish but first we gotta update my man. Will only take an hour. Maybe three.

Linux: Save the drama for your mamma.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Linux updates are much superior, but Windows updates have not taken more than 5 minutes for me for a long time.

I just hate all the reboots. Linux can update everything, even kernels now, and no downtime. Reminds me of crap home internet routers: "oh you changed the date&time? Then I gotta reboot"

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[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago

Then,

-Please try Edge

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 64 points 6 months ago

I remember Nintendo Wii.

Nintendo: "Hey, a new system update is here."

Me: "So what's new?"

Nintendo: (shrug)

Homebrew people: "This patch changed nothing, except they tried to plug a hole. Damn, took us almost 10 minutes to counteract that this time!"

(OK, there was one system update where they added the ability to run stuff off of the SD card, but beside that, there were a whole bunch of updates where they tried to stay ahead of homebrew/pirates and failed spectacularly.)

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The old paradox of Microsoft security updates. The more frequent they are, the more they look like they're staying on top of things. While at the same time showing the world there are a lot of frikkin' security holes in Windows all the time.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Update kbmorbillionnumbersandletters:

Fixes issue in update kbevenmorenumbersandletters

[–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Part of my job used to involve explaining patch supersedence to leadership so that they had a clear idea of why a totally different patch needs to be loaded to address a vulnerability reporting a different patch number in the scanner.

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[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If they told people it was just to add more "telemetry" and ads, they wouldn't install it.

[–] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

That was my first instinct haha. Came to comment "new telemetry"

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

do they give you the option to not install? i remember windows just updating without ever asking anything

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

There are ways around it, but yeah, I think they pretty much get forced on most users afaik.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

There are songs tools which will disable update altogether, Windows Update Blocker... But you know, use at your own risk or whatever.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 44 points 6 months ago

Ads.

They just don't want to tell you about them.

They want you to find out organically and immediately explode into inconsolable incandescent rage as you tear your system inside out to remove them.

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

New ads.

And sometimes it corrupts your drives. Just for fun.

[–] ShankShill@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Don't forget new keywords to trigger bing search in the start menu vs opening the local program.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 40 points 6 months ago (6 children)

there are detailed changelogs for almost every single KB on Microsoft's website

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Yup

Here are the changelogs of the latest 23H2 update, and all the smaller incremental updates:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/windows-11-version-23h2-update-history-59875222-b990-4bd9-932f-91a5954de434

Microsoft software is well documented

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[–] hitagi@ani.social 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They built a web browser into my start menu.

Why...

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Microsoft: Will somebody please use Edge. Anyone. Please? No, using it to download Firefox doesn't count!

[–] hitagi@ani.social 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

choco install firefox

I don't think we ever have to touch Edge!

[–] Dhs92@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] wischi@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How did you install chocolatey or downloaded the script to install it?

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

This comment and subsequent responses are making me wonder now, if you somehow dug out a 15 year old flash drive with like a Firefox 3 installer on it or something, could you get that up and running and eventually updated to the current version?

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's not like they're the first ones to do it either. Ubuntu did it before them and it was a massive disaster. Miscrosoft couldn't not have noticed it. They've seen what happened, and they went "Yes, that's exactly what we want" anyway.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft also really likes to install the update on your machine, wait a while, then finally activate whatever feature it is they changed.

Like I think I read somewhere that every machine running 22H2 around the time 23H2 came out was actually running 23, but with most of the new features turned off. Also even before 23H3 came out they were sprinkling those features into 22 so by the time I updated nothing changed.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah, for that reason, the feature upgrades only take a normal restart compared to the 30+ minute upgrade of the past.

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[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Updated the ~~tracking analytics~~ customizations and user info prompt we spam you with every time you restart

[–] naticus@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (17 children)

What changed? Likely your VPN doesn't work now. Lol

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[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 6 months ago

Just resetting your preferences to Microsofts preferences. They have to do that frequently; otherwise you might start to think it's your machine.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Probably updating the Pilot AI to be more sly sbout spying on you

[–] Varyag@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

Dunno, but graphics drivers stopped working again! Go reinstall them!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 points 6 months ago

A long time ago you used to get a list of changes.

[–] FlickeringScreens@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I'll stick with my sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade

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