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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This is one of the theories that explain why we don't hear anyone else in our galactic neighborhood.

Civilizations just develop highly sophisticated digital worlds that they can just live in in complete bliss forever or until their system degrades and falls apart in millions of years.

We could be surrounded light years in every direction by perverts having infinite fun with tentacle hentai porn in their perfect digital world and they will never know or want to know that we even exist.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

But on earth that won't work because Apple and Facebook don't allow tentacle hentai on their VR headsets.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

Either these companies will die out because they won't accept tentacle hentai or new companies will take their place to offer tentacle hentai .... whatever happens, we will get our tentacle hentai and never explore the universe.

[–] xionzui@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like that’s going to stop me

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're talking fully immersive VR tentacle hentai experiences, not just putting on a vid from pornhub.

[–] olicvb@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

quick search on f95zone and you'll find one

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It will never be a utopia, because those companies will use it to extract your thoughts, and pump relevant ads directly into your brain. Also, you'll forget to pay your subscription and you'll wake up in hell.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

I can get tentacle hentai on my Quest just fine.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Civilizations just develop highly sophisticated digital worlds that they can just live in in complete bliss forever or until their system degrades

If I want to be blissed out until my body falls apart, I can do that now by turning my retirement account into a stockpile of fentanyl. I don't think its presumed that intelligent civilizations all just do this, for the same reason I don't believe modern human civilization will collapse on itself simply because we've discovered opium.

We could be surrounded light years in every direction by perverts having infinite fun with tentacle hentai porn in their perfect digital world and they will never know or want to know that we even exist.

We struggle to confirm the existence of a ninth planet while. We're living in a solar system at the rural edge of the galaxy and we just found out black holes exist. Would we know what an advanced civilization would even look like?

We haven't even fully ruled out life on Mars, ffs. There could be a layer under the cloud system of Jupiter, Uranus, or Neptune that's absolutely teaming with life. The Great Space Whale Migration of Proxima Centauri could be happening right now and we'd never have a clue.

Do not sell the galaxy spanning race of sentient porn-loving starfish short just yet.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Tbf, turning your retirement account into pure bliss with Fentanyl greeeaaaatly reduces the amount of time you get to be blissed out. This hypothetical future likely had found a way to reach permanent bliss with as few downsides as possible

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the short story "Nano Comes to Clifford Falls." Basically a replicator arrives in a small town, and is freely available to use. At first it's great, but then it's not. I won't spell it all out, but I remember it being framed as a kind of few facto civilisation/personal "test," and that some people just can't handle life without the struggle.

Kind of a problematic take, if I'm remembering it correctly, but story still had a big impact on me.

CW: attempted sexual assault, in case anyone decides to check it out.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically a replicator arrives in a small town, and is freely available to use. At first it’s great, but then it’s not.

I'm familiar with the story. It was popular in conservative circles in the same way "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" was popular.

I'm not stranger to tech pessimism, but - setting aside the fantastic nature of the premise - there's little to support the theory that economic surplus has been bad for social cohesion. Given enough free time, people tend to be remarkably creative and productive. And a great deal of modern social cohesion is predicated on a certain ambient abundance of energy, housing, etc.

To quote Alfred Henry Lewis

There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hadn't thought of the story as explicitly conservative, but thinking about it again through that lens, I can definitely see it.

As for the quote, I remember hearing it as "barbarism" instead of "anarchy," but right you are. Actually, the search for more context lead me the full source (from his talk page), which is actually a really good read.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It’s not inherently conservative, just like the tragedy of the commons isn’t. However, its infuriate and most obvious takeaways are those that works appeal to a certain conservative mindset.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I want to be blissed out until my body falls apart, I can do that now by turning my retirement account into a stockpile of fentanyl. I don't think its presumed that intelligent civilizations all just do this, for the same reason I don't believe modern human civilization will collapse on itself simply because we've discovered opium.

The key difference is that we still live in a society where, at least most people, have to work to live. If you spend your retirement on fentanyl the fentanyl isn't going to be the thing to make your body fall apart, assuming you get pure shit and are able to dose properly and not od your body can handle that for decades. What's going to tear your body apart is the poverty and deprivation of living on the streets after you lose your job. If you're in a fully automated post scarcity society and you're able to hook yourself up to one of these machines and live a long life I could see a majority of people doing that. Sure some people would object to it being meaningless, but in a post scarcity reality where God is dead, a robot can do anything better than you, and there's no conflict or competition for resources there isn't much meaning to be had anyway.

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[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

VR porn + haptic suits = great filter

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Porn + direct brain interface = great filter

If that DBI can completely disconnect you from your actual body? (yes I saw that season of that anime where they used them on surgical patients and shit in lieu of heavy sedation that's what I'm talking about) Chronic pain could become a thing of the past sign me the fuck up. Shit, just hook it up to my actual eyes I'm good.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gonna need to see a Kurzgesagt video on this one.

[–] snf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A system that lasts a million years? Man, we can't even build a system that lasts a month without constant maintenance.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

But what a hell of a month it will be

[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Like the sleepers in Eve online

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

I bet you could get really energy efficientefficient with it too. Like convert people into highly specialized pleasure nodes in a vast network spanning the circumference of the sun's orbit

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The other one is that if we were to disasemble all our planets (we can leave earth alone for sentimental reasons) and rebuild them in shells around our sun we could create as much habitable living area as the surface of every natural planet (habitable or not) in our entire galaxy. Plus the whole thing would fit inside the orbit of mercury which means very low light lag. Why build a galaxy spanning empire when you can just build a galaxy at home and have much better ping?

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, a theory pushed by people that have no idea about the size of a galaxy? I like it.

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[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Dyson Sphere

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[–] sheridan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has meme template potential.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly though, he’s not hurting anybody else so let him enjoy it.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretending like addictions don't hurt anyone else is selfish and naive.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A serious take on a meme about a guy hooked up to an auto masterbator

[–] abracaDavid 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah there's no chance that it's an analogy or something.

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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

TFW you know how to spell 'masturbate' correctly, but not really sure you should point that out.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

good point. mastur isn't in the English dictionary, its from the Latin masturbatus. and fap used to mean 'drunk' in the 16th century.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No no, he's an expert at bating. Clearly he's just edging.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, as in abate.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

It's a brand name!

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

The entire circumstances of biological life is weird. You gotta deal with the fact that we're aware of the pointlessness of what turns us on. You can find a little bit of functional meaning of you dig into it, but it's a fucked up rabbit hole best avoided.

[–] felbane@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The novel The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect explores what might happen if this technology were available to everyone. Good read, kinda fucked up.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Real page turner that one. Crunchy and fanfic-y in a good way. The pedo stuff way way too detailed for my comfort, but if that's not a trigger for the reader, then it's a real head trip.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh wow! Great to see a reference out in the wild!

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you think enough Harry Potter porn is produced to cover a continuous video stream / decent-rate picture slideshow?

Anyway, these could be AI-generated with feedback from EEG.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Nah, it is just the same "Harry getting railed by the hippogriff" on a loop

[–] Rayspekt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The matrix after (before?) enshittification happened

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldnt call catatonia very enjoyable

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, whatever dogatoniaist.

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