this post was submitted on 15 May 2024
242 points (92.3% liked)

News

23284 readers
3513 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 226 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Remember: no Republicans are arguing Trump didn't break the law.

They're arguing he shouldn't be punished for it.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They’re arguing he shouldn’t be punished for it

They are really arguing that all Republicans shouldn't be punished but if you aren't in the club you get the full blast of the law.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (11 children)

Yea I think he has to be found guilty of the crime to be pardoned, right?

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

No. Nixon was never charged, but he was pardoned.

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 158 points 6 months ago

Ford was, based on the behavior of the Reagan, W Bush, and Trump administrations, entirely wrong to pardon Nixon. There is no reason to repeat his mistake.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 108 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And there ya go groveling to your orange master, Romney. What a spineless bitch.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 105 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, not that we needed one, but I really appreciate you giving us a reminder for why we should never ever make you president, Mittens. It's very thoughtful of you.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don't worry, at some point he'll say one normal thing and people will remark on how he's so reasonable compared to the others.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It is true, though. If he were to run for president, he'd be the best candidate the Republican party has put forward in 2 decades. And he's still a gigantic piece of shit.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The smallest coil of shit turned out onto the chests of voters in decades!

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You certainly have a way with words, my friend.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 81 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Romney again trying to ride both dicks at the same time.

I, for one, am sick of this whole "Oh lets pardon the past president to protect the institution of presidency"

Presidents should not be above the law. They are not gods, they are not kings, they are elected as representatives.

especially when the one in question turned the white house into a goddamn criminal enterprise

[–] Zink@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, I don’t know why so many people get this wrong!

We give guns to our cops to enforce the laws, and we should have higher expectations for the handling of their weapon than random schmuck off the street licensed gun owner.

We give the military and various other resources and powers to the President to execute the laws. They should also be held to an even higher standard! A bad guy as President can do a million times as much damage than they can as a cop.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Agree. These people are given the public trust. betraying the public trust should result in severe punishment. More severe than a random schmuck doing the same act, cause that random schmuck wasnt given the public trust and the power of authority.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 78 points 6 months ago

Maybe the ex-president shouldn't have been such a criminal, Mitt.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago

Mitt Romney is an idiot

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 48 points 6 months ago (6 children)

You didn't even run, bitch.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago

And this guy is supposed to be the “moderate” GOP. Crooks and liars all the way down their bones.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just when you thought he wasn't half bad.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Anybody who thought that was half stupid.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

Shut up romney.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I can see discussion if he committed crimes related to being in office, that time was past, and we wanted the country to move forward, but none of that is true. Trump is finally facing justice for crimes throughout hiss adult life and he’s trying to skip justice to gain the presidency. This is not the Nixon situation. Even worse, Romney reasons it “to be a bigger man”, wtf, this isn’t just play acting as part of the presidential campaign

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 6 months ago

And pardoning Nixon just set the stage for Republicans continuing to commit crimes while or in order to get into office.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 months ago

If you want to see how bad stuff gets for someone constantly trying to stay in power to avoid jail time, all you have to do is look at Netanyahu

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

Biden can't pardon state crimes.

[–] card797@champserver.net 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Presidents should be prosecuted for crimes. They are not Kings and Queens.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hell, kings and queens should be prosecuted for crimes

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, Trump could just try not being a criminal if they care so much about prosecuting an ex-president

load more comments (1 replies)

Wow, this is an impressively stupid take.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Just shows how much of a mistake pardoning Nixon was the first time. Now there's a precedent for giving Presidents immunity to save face.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

And that's why you'll never be president.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

All I did was post an article, you big meanie

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can't take the snivelling, manipulative, lying scumbag out of the republican, I guess.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] exanime@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

how is this news? we already knew Romney was a turd

[–] FiniteBanjo 6 points 6 months ago

It may surprise you that a very large number of Republican politicians have spoken ill of Trump in the past, so it always makes it into the news when they flop on the issue and go back to subservience.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ford pardoned Nixon. He didn't get elected to a full term after finishing the remainder of Nixons. We can argue about if the pardon was the final nail in the coffin (The economy shitting the bed didn't help, I'm sure.), but I think we can agree it was definitely one of the nails.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What? Anyway, that would never happen.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah, who just pardons a criminal ex-presi- wait… never mind.

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I actually had an idea that Biden could pardon Trump, then Trump couldn't plead the 5th when called as a witness against anyone else. So he would have the choice of truthful answers or perjury.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Seeing how this current judge has been handling him with kid gloves I wouldn’t expect anything bad to happen to him even if he did perjure himself.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] rockandsock@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

If I were Mitt I would immediately transfer everything I own to rockandsock.

It's really easy to say what you'd hypothetically do in someone else's place isn't it?

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 7 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Doesn't there have to be a conviction in order for there to be a pardon? Or is that a myth?

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Nixon got a full pardon and I don't think he was ever charged.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

He was talking some sense on his way out, then this. Repubs are incapable of being normal.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›