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Life would be so different and so easy if you could just make a living being as stupid as the consultants who came up with this plan.

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(I’m very bored at work today so have included optional commentary to entertain myself about the article below. Please feel free to skip it if you’d like.)

NEW YORK (AP) — A Democratic group is rolling out a new $140 million ad campaign that aims to chip away at Donald Trump’s support among one of his most loyal voting blocs: rural voters.

The ads, from American Bridge 21st Century, will begin airing Monday in the northern battleground states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. They are aimed at swing voters in smaller media markets that are less saturated with political advertising and where they hope to reach people, especially women, who may be on the fence.

commentaryYes! Fantastic! We have eaten away at Trump’s margin in Nowhere, Upper Peninsula by 15%! We have gained an entire 23 statewide votes compared to our 2020 result! Now Trump only won the county by 10%!

“We should compete everywhere,” said American Bridge co-founder Bradley Beychok, who said Democrats have too often shied away from rural counties as they have focused on turning out base voters in more urban and suburban areas. In the states that are likely to decide November’s election “Margins matter,” he said.

commentaryMargins matter, which is why we will not work nearly as hard to mobilize the massive, concentrated groups of populations which historically support our party.

The ads, part of the group’s broader $200 million effort to defeat Trump, target exurban and rural areas like Erie, Johnstown and Altoona, Pennsylvania; Flint, Saginaw and Bay City, Michigan; and Wausau and Rhinelander, Wisconsin.

They feature testimonials from voters sharing their concerns about a second Trump term. The first round focuses on abortion rights and health care access. In one, a nurse who’s a mother and grandmother bemoans the overturning of Roe. v. Wade and highlights Trump’s own words on the issue. In another, an OB/GYN shares a heartbreaking story of having an abortion late in pregnancy after discovering the child she was carrying had a fatal abnormality.

Future ads will focus on issues like IVF and democracy and freedom as they try to help voters who are turned off by politics and may not be paying close attention to the election understand the stakes this November.

commentaryThis chauvinist “THEY just don’t understand the stakes this November.” is so pathetic and emblematic of how democrats treat rural people and why the dems lost the rural progressive vote. Instead of offering rural people any real, tangible solutions to their social and economic hardships, dems double down on the “You just don’t understand what’s good for you.” politics that get them labeled as elitists.

American democracy has overcome big stress tests since 2020. More challenges lie ahead in 2024. “People are afraid of Trump. And in some cases you have to remind them why,” said Beychok, who said first-person testimonials are the most effective way to reach voters, given the electorate’s broad distrust of politicians.

commentaryLiterally the paragraph before this was talking about focusing on ads about freedom and then go and tell people that because of the way they voted or who they support, they must not like freedom. It also says they are targeting people who are turned off by politics and then goes on to say that you should be afraid of politics. Masterful gambit, epic sir.

People “want to hear from voters that look like them, that have similar stories,” said Eva Kemp, the group’s vice president of campaigns. She said they spent years recruiting participants via door-to-door canvassing and other outreach, identified over 1,500 potential voices across the three states and interviewed hundreds.

commentaryHoly shit. 1500 testimonials across all of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. How much do you genuinely think was spend over the past few years on this campaign that is absolutely oozing with consultants to acquire 1500 testimonials about being a regular person who lives in one of these three states?

They include Lori Cataldi, 57, a nurse who works for a local community hospital in central Pennsylvania and speaks in her ad about abortion rights. “If we reelect Trump, what are women going to lose next?” she asks.

commentaryIf you re-elect Biden what are women going to lose next? Abortion rights went away under Biden, not Trump.

She said she was contacted by the group after her husband wrote a letter to the editor that was published in their local paper and hopes her ad will catch the attention of other women who may be undecided or turned off by the current political climate.

“I’m hoping that it just touches people who might be frustrated, who might be tired of it all. I really hope that it resonates in a way that makes them take pause ... and say, as tired as they are, ‘I really should look close at this,’” she said.

She called on voters to look past what she called “extraneous issues” like the candidates’ ages or their alleged crimes. “Women need to pay attention to what’s important to women. And I’m hoping that it speaks to other women who are just like me,” she said.

commentaryOk but if you look past the extraneous issues like the fact that both candidates are senile and that both candidates are criminals, they really aren’t all that bad!

Trump’s dominance in rural countries has been critical to his success. Some 60% of voters who live in small towns or rural areas voted for Trump in 2020, versus 38% who voted for Biden, according to AP VoteCast.

That trend continued in this year’s Republican primary contests. In the early voting states, between 58% and 66% of voters from small towns or rural areas supported Trump, the data show. He was less popular among suburban and urban voters.

Swing voters represent a small sliver of the electorate, especially in a year when both major party candidates are so well known.

commentaryNo shit? Biden will have been listed on a ballot for presidential election for four of the last five elections, and this will be Trump’s third in a row. Everybody knows who these clowns are already and has had no less than a decade to form an opinion on each.

But the Democratic group has identified several million swing voters it says fit into four broad categories of potentially persuadable voters: soft partisans, volatile voters who readily switch between parties, anti-MAGA conservatives turned off by the more extreme elements of the Republican Party, as well as “double doubters,” which is the name that has been given to voters this cycle who are turned off by both parties’ candidates. Voters in those groups, they say, are predominantly women and from rural and exurban areas.

commentaryVery cool made up categories, but have you considered that the volatile voters, anti-maga conservatives, and double doubters have already had 6 years to decide between these two candidates, and also already had the choice between the two in a presidential election? What are you doing differently?

“Democrats should have learned by now that since Trump was elected in 2016, women have saved democracy election after election,” Beychok said.

commentaryBeychok also mentioned that their DMs are open btw ladies 😏😜

Another ad features Susan Pryce, 74, a retired nurse who lives in Derry, Pennsylvania, and got involved with the project after she lent her neighbor a laptop to record a follow-up interview during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. She offered a litany of reasons why she does not support Trump, from his comments maligning the late Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war, to his history of bragging about sexually abusing women.

commentaryWell that was nice and neighborly of her to share her laptop, but why is it tossed in here like an unsolicited piece of information in a conversation with any person over the age of 65?

“…and I’ll take two pounds of the Boar’s Head Honey Ham… You know once I found two half dollars stuck together? I never could get them apart.”

Anyway I’m starting to think this Biden outreach campaign was distributed via AARP snail mail.

“I feel like this is the most important election that I’ve ever voted in,” she said, choking up as she described her family’s extensive military history. Her father was a POW in Germany for 21 months during World War II and her husband is a disabled Vietnam War veteran.

“I want to honor everything that they sacrificed,” she said, and make sure “there’s a democracy for us here.”

“I want my grandchildren to know that a good leader seeks that office to serve, not for personal gain or personal power,” she went on. “I want them to know a good leader respects the Constitution — Constitution that all their relatives who served took an oath to ... that no one is above the law. That every one of us, including the people at the very top, have to have respect for the rule of law,” she said.

She also voiced concern about women’s rights, describing how women once needed their father’s or husband’s permission to have certain medical procedures or to get a credit card.

“When Roe v. Wade was overturned, I just felt that I had suddenly become a second-class citizen,” she said. “I’m really worried that this is just the tip of the iceberg, that we’re going backwards.”

commentaryflag-gay-pride first-time

She said she lives in a rural area that’s very conservative, but noted a neighbor had recently put up a “BYEDON” sign, giving her hope.

commentaryDrumpf will never recover from this.

“I really believe just from the last year, from interactions with people that there are more people that feel like I do but are just quiet and going about their lives,” she said. “We’re going to make our voices heard with our vote.”

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 51 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could’ve used that 200m to feed people and got more votes lol

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 49 points 4 months ago (3 children)

DEADASS. The Biden team could literally have set up a food pantry in every single county in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania (222 counties) with almost a $1000000 budget for each. That would almost certainly move the needle significantly in a few rural counties.

[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can't do that, that's just buying votes markkks-juggalo

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Is it though if it’s a PAC?

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

This helps people, a great way to have the full force of the law come down on you

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[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Food pantries in rural areas are not only a much-needed service, but they're an opportunity to talk to potential voters who have a lot to gain from direct government intervention. Huge opportunity for the Dems to associate themselves with helping people out. Instead, they're going to spend all that money and effort on... billboards and TV ads? People aren't stupid, they think billboard ads are corny and TV ads are annoying.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

True but it's less effective than you think.

Work food pantry in upstate new york.

Here's a typical experience.

-retired person on Medicare who got a pension for working for the town garage for 40 years comes in and gets a bunch of free food through state policies that are in place because we haven't been run by republicans for decades

"How you doing today sir"

"Be doing a lot better if it weren't for all the lazy slurs taking my tax dollars because they don't want to work."

this person has literally not seen a non-white person for years

[–] wild_dog@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

I live grew up in rural Missouri and if they did something like that here, the democrats would flip the state. rural voters are starving for the government to do ANYTHING to help them. even the DNC special where whatever is means tested to shit would go a long way to improving Biden's performance in rural areas but nope, we can't do that, we gotta waste a bunch of money on ads people are gonna ignore instead.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 45 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i mean, if you won't materially do anything to assist people in the geographies your political project abandoned 50 years ago, it's probably a great idea to inundate their media consumption with annoying interstitials where you pretend fucks are given. worse case scenario, those people hate you even more, but the media companies will appreciate the revenue coming out of depressed demographic blocs and that's the real end game here anyway: big media buys.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago

Don’t forget to also scold people for not caring enough about democracy and freedom! People in general, but especially conservatives, take really kindly to that!

[–] wild_dog@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

this is partially why people in rural areas end up being so conservative to begin with. when the government doesn't do anything but lecture you about how good you have it while the Republicans are giving some explanation for why things suck for you (even if it's wildly reactionary and clearly wrong), you're probably gonna end up right wing since the fundamental right wing premise that government doesn't work seems true when the government never works for your benefit.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i just finished Hinterland: America’s New Landscape of Class and Conflict by Phil A. Neel, a critical-geographer / communist raised in a mobile home near the mountain border of oregon and california. it's incredible.

Over the last forty years, the human landscape of the United States has been fundamentally transformed. The metamorphosis is partially visible in the ascendance of glittering, coastal hubs for finance, infotech, and the so-called creative class. But this is only the tip of an economic iceberg, the bulk of which lies in the darkness of the declining heartland or on the dimly lit fringe of sprawling cities. This is America’s hinterland, populated by towering grain threshers and hunched farmworkers, where laborers drawn from every corner of the world crowd into factories and “fulfillment centers” and where cold storage trailers are filled with fentanyl-bloated corpses when the morgues cannot contain the dead.

Urgent and unsparing, this book opens our eyes to America’s new heart of darkness. Driven by an ever-expanding socioeconomic crisis, America’s class structure is recomposing itself in new geographies of race, poverty, and production.

it's a very quick read and very engaging with a distinctly material analysis of the geographies of dislocation and capital in the US and their impacts on communities and their relations/ideologies, etc. he draws distinctions within the "rural", to create a "far hinterland", very remote places of single resource extraction and "near hinterland" the boundaries of the peri-urban/ex-urban/suburban fringes that were once affluent 40 years ago, but after multiple national crises and collapses, become the contested sites of immigrants looking for cheap housing and white working class trying to "hang on" to former aspirations of comfort.

he paints a picture of the far hinterland's slide toward reaction as non-ideological, but rather that there simply is organizing going on there by the right with minor provision for material safety and civic improvements, the people simply regard them as legitimate while antipathy towards the failing state institutions grows. he talks about how in afghanistan, many villages do not agree with the taliban and its religious extremism... but the taliban mediates disputes and makes provision to secure water, electricity, etc, so people are like, "i guess they're what we have to work with.... so why fight them?" when there is no alternative, what choice is there? he does a much better job of talking about the programs right wing groups push out there, but i want to say it was like drug addiction, church food banks, and some others.

it truly paints a picture of these places and the people there who are having everything taken out from under them by the faceless forces of capital under naked extraction, and the democrats can't even bother with the most minor of civic accommodations, so the people there either check out completely or casually acknowledge whoever is around doing stuff as legitimate. failing to have the support of rural america is the most penny wise, pound foolish self-own in american politics given our electoral system. never before have so many places been alienated by refusal to provide so little while so much is being stolen from under their feet.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hey! I'm on chapter two of this book, glad to see it mentioned. Growing up in the country I'm like "damn, I know these people" when reading it. It really hits hard too when it feels likes it's describing your family and people you grew up with. I need to finish it, but glad to see it discussed

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

yeah, it's a no-punches-pulled read. i like the way he shines a personal, human light on these complex places.

i literally only finished it maybe 96 hours ago, so my brain is still marinating with it.

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[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"We should compete everywhere. Margins matter."

WTF that's like the one thing that DOESN'T matter in the US electoral system. If it was popular vote, sure, broadcast away, but since it's all district-based there's absolutely no point to trying to reach voters in districts that are going to go for the other side!

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

It literally explicitly by deffiniton does not matter.

There's 2 states that award proportional delegates and they both have like 4 EC votes total.

Imagine if a sports analyst tried to argue it's better to spend all your effort losing a game by 2 points instead of 5.

That's the democratic party.

[–] kfc@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago

For an ideology that comprises entirely of electoralism and le epic decorum, liberals suck absolute horseshit at winning elections

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago

The Democrats mistakenly believe that Republican voters want the government to function. If they did, Biden would be a perfect candidate: he’s drilling for more oil, he’s caging more immigrants, he’s owning the libs by going full police state on critics of “Israel,” he’s even conducting a genocide on a predominantly Muslim country (way more manly than a travel ban). The problem is, Republican voters aren’t paying attention to things that happen. Kinda like Democrat voters, who will think all the above things are bad again in about 9 months.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She offered a litany of reasons why she does not support Trump, from his comments maligning the late Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war, to his history of bragging about sexually abusing women.

Equating mean words (very tame ones, too) with sexual assault

Stick to the big stuff, don't get bogged down listing every single grievance.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

maligning the late Sen. John McCain, an ~~former prisoner of war~~ imperialist

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

maligning the late Sen. John McCain, skull posthumously used to serve spaghetti to his daughter

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

can't believe we don't have this emote

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

Honestly surprised we don't have the Ben Garrison cartoon of him crashing a plane into an open grave while his head is exploding as one either

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

a former ~~prisoner of war~~ imperialist

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago
[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's times like these that you realize we have no emotes for President Benjamin Harrison, who served a term between Grover Cleveland's two.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Get this: if Biden loses and doesn’t immediately disintegrate into dust that scatters into the wind, he could theoretically run AGAIN in 2028

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

lathe-of-heaven

You have found the stupidest timeline and thus it will happen

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay, who's going to throw themselves into the Lathe to prevent this from happening?

I kept King Charles from going to chemo and living another 30 years, someone else is going to have to suffer this time

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[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The funniest 16 year stretch of American history trump-kubrick-stare biden-horror trump-drenched biden-rember

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

deeply cursed post

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

"2028" could be Hexbear's first four panel emote.

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Live in very rural upstate new york.

2 kinds of people around here, frothing at the mouth fascists who will happily tell you about their plans to go down their kill list the first chance they get, and apolitical people who have completely written off bith parties because nothing has improved for them for 20 years regardless of who is president.

Until a pay check actually covers the cost of living they are not wasting their precious time and money to drive 30 miles to the polling place to try to vote for somebody they correctly figured out decades ago does not give on singular shit about them only to discover they've been purged from the voter rolls for a fourth consecutive election (ask me how I know).

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's a 200 million dollar ratchet effect, that's all. Controlled opposition, whatever you wanna call it

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I’m sure some dems probably aren’t completely soulless and felt genuinely bad when Roe was overturned, but you know their second thought was immediately how much they could fundraise on it.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

Maybe some of them, but folks like Pelosi and Biden aren't even Pro-Choice. They probably had to wear sunglasses for a week to hide the dollar signs in their eyes.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Should we focus on swing states where the distance between trump and Biden was marginal? Or maybe stop finding a genocide?

No, let's pay for ads targeting the "lock her up" demographic

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[–] Blottergrass@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It's kind of nice Florida isn't a swing state anymore. Everyone here knows Florida will vote for Trump , reelect rick scott, etc. It'll be chill down here. Michigan and Wisconsin will have to bear the brunt of the spectacle this time.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

The loss of Florida is a democratic party bungle for the ages

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wonder if liberals are gonna say Texas is about to go blue for the 6th presidential election in a row before losing every race in the state by 30 points.

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[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So much easier to piss away millions of dollars on ad buys that also have a kickback for the democratic party apparatchiks that run the ad campaign, then for them to actually do something when they are in power in government that makes people want to vote for them.

It's easier for them to say "oh we just didn't have a good enough message to win" than to have a real examination about why they lost, mainly they didn't do shit when in power to earn enough votes from their supporters to beat the other guy

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Imagine spending 200 million on actually doing something for people. People like it when you improve their lives.

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If he wants their votes, Biden should be talking about how he is coming for the first amendment to protect the second amendment.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't, but if I did donate to the DNC this kinda shit here would compel me to stop.

There are 2 "lost cause" myths in the USA. The first is the infamous confederate bullshit. The second is the white pmc establishment Democrats obsessed with winning over other white pmc establishment Republicans.

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[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, that is sadly not a lot of money in an election cycle.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’d have to imagine there’s some serious overlap between who was running each campaign

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it's not like any of these ghouls ever lose their jobs when they lose elections

[–] riseuppikmin@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Time to incorporate a town in rural Idaho by bribing a local politician with $200 USD to get Biden campaign spending to fund mutual aid for life

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